Little Samson Reproduction questiion.

[segamer]

I'm almost ready to conclude my NES collection. One of the few games i want is Little Samson. I've decided that I'm not going to pay $500 for it. However, I'm willing to accept a reproduction cartridge. I've written a few site that make reproduction carts but none of them offered or where willing to make Little Samson. Anyone know where I can get one?

[madrocsz]

I'm almost ready to conclude my NES collection. One of the few games i want is Little Samson. I've decided that I'm not going to pay $500 for it. However, I'm willing to accept a reproduction cartridge. I've written a few site that make reproduction carts but none of them offered or where willing to make Little Samson. Anyone know where I can get one?

Nope,  nor do I ever think you will see one. Not to say it cant be done but none of the major sites will do it. They are pretty adament about making copies of standard US releases. The only exception would be the NWC 1990 carts but that wasnt exactly open for everyone to buy when it first came to light. I can understand not wanting to pay 500$ for it, if anything make it your "destiny" game. Currently mine is aero fighters for the snes. I refused to pay 100$ for it and I damn sure wont pay 300+ that its going for now. By destiny, its that 1 game I will find, will, one day out in the open for 5$ or so lol

[Violet Rosery]

You might want to just get a flash cart.

[Quazimoto]

You might want to just get a flash cart.

I was going to suggest that as well...  Could always get a flash cart and re-house it in a standard gray cart shell with a Little Samson repro label.

[Blueprint]

I know of a site that does repros of original titles 

[BadChad]

Flash cart might be your best option.

If you can get yourself close with a repro maker, or at least get them to trust you will only be keeping it for yourself, you can get them to make you pretty much anything you want. Ive been really into repros for years so I know a couple people who might build me anything if I asked. Altho I dont think they'd be willing to do it for anyone els unfortunetly because it is something most repro makers wont do for obviouse reasons. And I have to respect that.

While I havent actually had any repros done for any retail games yet, I have thought about it. Something like Grind Stormer or a few of the stupid rare and expensive games that I just want to be able to play on real hardware.

If blueprint knows a place, you might want to get him to pm you the site. Altho I hope this isnt something they do on a regular basis...

[Retro Deckades]

Ah segamer, I feel your pain, dude. I too am dying to find myself a copy of Little Samson. I just want to play it! I would love it if it were as common as Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt and cost $5, but since it's so difficult to find it's rather disheartening.

I'm also in the boat where if carts are ridiculous stupid prices I would love to have a repro option. Aside from the fact that it's technically copyright infringement (a point I'm assuming most of us on the forums wouldn't likely argue, considering what we all come here for  , is it the fact that repros might devalue the game? I'm not entirely convinced that would be the case because it wouldn't be an original, much like how a photocopy of a famous piece of artwork doesn't do crap. Take the Virtual Console for example -- I've seen few, if any, cartridge prices be affected by the availability of a digital release. If anything, the prices have only gone UP. And while the VGA might not agree, don't these games exist so that people can play and enjoy them?

Perhaps I am missing something?

[wiggy]

Repro makers won't ONLY because of (perceived) copyright problems.  It doesn't ahve anything to do with devaluing the legitimate market, which it wouldn't anyway, the same way that aftermarket Cobras haven't affected the value of real Cobras.

[Retro Deckades]

I guess we'll have to wait until it becomes public domain. At least our children will be able to enjoy it!

[wiggy]

With many of Disney's most popular characters and franchises creeping up on that age, expect copyright law to change. A lot.  Public domain may just become a thing of the past to be honest.

[madrocsz]

With many of Disney's most popular characters and franchises creeping up on that age, expect copyright law to change. A lot.  Public domain may just become a thing of the past to be honest.

disney soon to own the world, first marvel, then star wars... next?

[tiktektak]

Yeah just be patient would be my guess. I got my complete Little Samson for like 15 Euro or sth like that.

I have to say I may be a bit too greedy sometimes. I already had the opportunity to get Super Turrican 2
for the SNES two times in the last year. Once complete and just a few days ago a cart with manual, both times in very good condition.
The complete one would have cost 40 Euro, the cart+manual 30 Euro. Both times I didn't take it. I do not want to pay more than 35 Euros for a complete or 25 for a unboxed SNES game ever (very few exceptions apply).

[satoshi_matrix]

Personally I think any repro maker who would refuse to make a reproduction of Little Sampson or just about any other NES game is just being a pompous a-hole. These games had their time in the sun - the only demand for them now is a niche segment of the retro gaming community. Those who would even desire a reproduction of Little Sampson is even a further niche segment of that segment. I would hazard a guess that there are perhaps 3000 gamers worldwide who would be interested in such a thing as a Little Sampson reproduction. An absolute drop in the bucket to the overall retro gaming community.

I remember asking about this on NintendoAge a while back. Was told basically by every replier that "Oh how dare I even suggest that" and then harassed by the mods. It's this whole holier-than-thou attitude that prices for a good, yet obscure game have skyrocketed over the past year or so. It's also another reason by and large the NintendoAge community is so horrible.


Repro makers should accept almost any NES repro request whenever possible. The only exception should be for games that are being made now, such as Battle Kid 2. But for games that were made 20 years ago and nobody is making a dime from them? C'mon.

It's ridiculous for anyone to pick and choose some games that they will or won't make based on the oh-so-precious outrageous open market values of the original.

Even if that were an issue worthy of note, here's what you do: Design up a new label, one that couldn't be confused for the original. The reproduction will never be mistaken for the original, and everyone's happy.

Except for the pompous jerks.

Who in the end, apparently are calling all the shots.

[BadChad]

I like how no one is thinking of how a Little Samson repro could be abused.

Its simple to say the biggest reasons why most repro makes wont make retail games because, really at this day and age, Little Samson repros are the last thing we need floating around as retail copies.

Do we really need a site that sais "Hey, Ill make you what ever you want, retail or not"? Then everyone floods with orders saying "Hey, make me Little Samson, Bubble Bobble 2, Power Blade 2 and Flinstones 2". Sure alot of people will be happy to actually be able to give this a play on there NES for a reasonable price and will probably keep it for them selves.

But what about all the people who choose to abuse this service? (And there will be some!) You dont think at some point or another, someone is going to try ripping people off passing these off as real? I know theres a handfull of us here here that could certainly recreate a retail label with ease. Then just find yourself the highest quality paper/printer, and you can bang out labels that would be hard to tell the difference to the untrained eye. Hell, every time I get a new repro game in, I pass it around to all my friends to check out (gamer/collector or not) since I make my own labels. Even some of my friends who actually retro collect cant even tell its a repro untill I tell them it is or they recognize the game and know its repro. I cant tell you how many times Ive had people in my game room and tell me "What? When did we ever get Secret of Mana 2?" Open up my case, admire it for a few minutes and have no idea what they were holding was actually a repro cart.

And if you sold any of those games for half of what their actually worth, youd still make a killing. I dont think thats something any repro maker wants to be a part of. And how good would it looked if it actually happened, and you were the one to make the cart? If I made repros, I dont know that Id be comfortable building Little Samson carts for strangers on a regular basis...

Like I said, I love repros and I do understand why people would want repros of retail games. But I dont think it makes it a good idea to just open up the doors so everyone can buy any super rare retail cart the want. They'd be flying out the door all over the place. It doesnt take longer than a few seconds to realize how bad and fast that situation could get...

[Arseen]

I like how no one is thinking of how a Little Samson repro could be abused.

I did, I just couldn't bother to point it out.

And you can ofcorse open the cart and tell if it's real or repro.

Anyay did you get the PM.