Author Topic: February 2013 pickups, yo!  (Read 8096 times)

February 05, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
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Just going off memory here but isn't SF64 a sequel to SF? I thought the 64 one featured the son of the first Fox Mcloud or something like that.

The original Star Fox was the same Fox as N64.  His father was always talked about, but never shown (as he was killed long before the games)

And I think the game was a fine line between sequel and reboot, as they have virtually the same story and level design, but wasn't this was originally going to be Star Fox 2 on SNES before it was moved to N64?

February 06, 2013, 01:07:17 AM
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I grabbed another N64 at goodwill for $8.

February 06, 2013, 01:10:20 AM
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Just going off memory here but isn't SF64 a sequel to SF? I thought the 64 one featured the son of the first Fox Mcloud or something like that.

The original Star Fox was the same Fox as N64.  His father was always talked about, but never shown (as he was killed long before the games)

And I think the game was a fine line between sequel and reboot, as they have virtually the same story and level design, but wasn't this was originally going to be Star Fox 2 on SNES before it was moved to N64?

From playing SF2 it certainly seems like it. A lot of the same ideas.

February 06, 2013, 03:59:30 AM
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Went and bought a Silver PS2 slim (NTSC/US) + 1 hk + 2 memory cards and Chrono Cross black label for ps1 - 40 $
Det Vet Du!

February 06, 2013, 05:57:02 AM
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just ordered a new shell for my DS Lite.

 More wanted to post about the kirby collection.....its less than $20 from Gamefly right now. Game, case, manual, art. always in good shape. Just wanted to post incase anybody wanted it.

February 06, 2013, 08:55:11 AM
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Went and bought a Silver PS2 slim (NTSC/US) + 1 hk + 2 memory cards and Chrono Cross black label for ps1 - 40 $

Chrono Cross is such an amazing game!


February 06, 2013, 11:20:58 AM
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More wanted to post about the kirby collection.....its less than $20 from Gamefly right now. Game, case, manual, art. always in good shape. Just wanted to post incase anybody wanted it.

it's crazy how nintendo won't release that in europe. so much value for your money. looking to install homebrew on the wii and start importing stuff like that and trauma team. cubivore too, if you can do gamecube imports.

February 06, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
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More wanted to post about the kirby collection.....its less than $20 from Gamefly right now. Game, case, manual, art. always in good shape. Just wanted to post incase anybody wanted it.

it's crazy how nintendo won't release that in europe. so much value for your money. looking to install homebrew on the wii and start importing stuff like that and trauma team. cubivore too, if you can do gamecube imports.

I'll never understand region locks on consoles .. it's like they don't want money or something.

The great thing about the Wii is that it's easy to hack and load other region free off a hard drive.

A friend sent me xenoblade from the UK when it wasn't looking like it was going to come to NA and I was able to take the physical copy, dump it to the hard drive and play it.

All of my games are on the hard drive which helps with my laziness .. want to switch games?  Don't have to get off the couch ;D

Also I've got NES, SNES, Gameboy, GBA emulators which are great to play something quick and not have to hook up an old system and grab a cart.  This is great for when people are over and see my collection and want to play something .. just fire up the Wii.

February 06, 2013, 12:51:25 PM
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More wanted to post about the kirby collection.....its less than $20 from Gamefly right now. Game, case, manual, art. always in good shape. Just wanted to post incase anybody wanted it.

it's crazy how nintendo won't release that in europe. so much value for your money. looking to install homebrew on the wii and start importing stuff like that and trauma team. cubivore too, if you can do gamecube imports.

I'll never understand region locks on consoles .. it's like they don't want money or something.

The great thing about the Wii is that it's easy to hack and load other region free off a hard drive.

A friend sent me xenoblade from the UK when it wasn't looking like it was going to come to NA and I was able to take the physical copy, dump it to the hard drive and play it.

All of my games are on the hard drive which helps with my laziness .. want to switch games?  Don't have to get off the couch ;D

Also I've got NES, SNES, Gameboy, GBA emulators which are great to play something quick and not have to hook up an old system and grab a cart.  This is great for when people are over and see my collection and want to play something .. just fire up the Wii.

Copyright law.

February 06, 2013, 12:59:02 PM
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More wanted to post about the kirby collection.....its less than $20 from Gamefly right now. Game, case, manual, art. always in good shape. Just wanted to post incase anybody wanted it.

it's crazy how nintendo won't release that in europe. so much value for your money. looking to install homebrew on the wii and start importing stuff like that and trauma team. cubivore too, if you can do gamecube imports.

I'll never understand region locks on consoles .. it's like they don't want money or something.

The great thing about the Wii is that it's easy to hack and load other region free off a hard drive.

A friend sent me xenoblade from the UK when it wasn't looking like it was going to come to NA and I was able to take the physical copy, dump it to the hard drive and play it.

All of my games are on the hard drive which helps with my laziness .. want to switch games?  Don't have to get off the couch ;D

Also I've got NES, SNES, Gameboy, GBA emulators which are great to play something quick and not have to hook up an old system and grab a cart.  This is great for when people are over and see my collection and want to play something .. just fire up the Wii.

Copyright law.

Is it because each region has different laws?

If so how is a PS3 region free and not a Wii if they have to follow the same laws?  I guess they could each have different agreements with publishers.

Seriously curious as region locking sounds like a terrible business decision to me and I'm always fascinated by the business world of video games.

If Nintendo had never released Xenoblade here they still would have made something off the legit, paid for PAL copy that I have without incurring the costs of releasing a localized NA version.  In this case, which I realize isn't the only case, they benefited from a no risk - reward situation.




February 06, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
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Copyright law.

Is it because each region has different laws?

If so how is a PS3 region free and not a Wii if they have to follow the same laws?  I guess they could each have different agreements with publishers.

Seriously curious as region locking sounds like a terrible business decision to me and I'm always fascinated by the business world of video games.

If Nintendo had never released Xenoblade here they still would have made something off the legit, paid for PAL copy that I have without incurring the costs of releasing a localized NA version.  In this case, which I realize isn't the only case, they benefited from a no risk - reward situation.

Copyright law is such an impossibly difficult thing to completely understand. 

Every country has their own copyright laws, and some have none at all, like China (which is why they manage to rip off everything and suffer zero preoccupations for it).  On top of that, a copyright held in Japan may not be enforceable here in the US.  This means that the owner of said rights is afforded little to no protection from their IP being stolen/reproduced/etc. 

It's definitely not so much about the hardware developers, as you noted, but rather about developers and publishers.  They're the ones that stand to lose something.


I'm sure there are other reasons for region lockouts, but copyright is one thing that I know has always been a large component of it.  In fact, Sega sued/nearly sued eBay about 11-12 years ago when the DC launched in order to prevent people in the US from buying and selling Japanese games.  There was a good year or two that you simply could NOT import via eBay.  IIRC, you STILL can't sell mod chips on eBay despite their current quasi-legality.  I have a friend who's a copyright attorney and even he sometimes gives me a blank stare and scratches his head when I pick his brain about the subject.  It's also an ever changing area.  What was true years or even months ago may not hold true today.  The web has COMPLETELY turned copyright law on its head and these poor attorneys are always scrambling to make sense of the new legislation and use it effectively.  Would make me absolutely nuts :/

February 06, 2013, 01:59:16 PM
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Logically speaking, running your spaceship into a wall should prolly kill you instantly. Half your life is something to be thankful for :P

Yeah, maybe you're right. Other than the wall bouncing, I thought the bosses were pretty cool and, dare I say it... more memorable than SF64's bosses.

One of those games that ended up being <b>better</b> than I remember it being.

February 06, 2013, 02:11:51 PM
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It holds up surprisingly well IMO as well.   I play it through quite regularly.  Even with the crummy frame rate, lack of texture mapping (which I actually find quite pleasant), and super low poly count, it's still a blast!  Proof that graphics don't make a game or a game system successful.  Hell, the PS2 was the "weakest" of the 6th generation and it was still far and away the "winner" of the bunch.

February 06, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
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It's definitely not so much about the hardware developers, as you noted, but rather about developers and publishers.  They're the ones that stand to lose something.

strange then that noone's used to optional region lock for the ps3 (up until atlus just did). that's good sportsmanship.

was gonna say; it's just another boring old vie for power. they want you to be good, predictable consumer so markets don't get intertwined and sales get harder to map out. but yeah, there's more to it than that. i mean in the days of PAL/NTSC it was excusable (and no handhelds i know of had region locking back then) but artificial limitations for consoles/dvds/blurays is just ridiculous. it's really sad that they locked down the 3DS, as they're already putting out titles in the US that probably won't make it here (like adventure time and the princess atlus fighter thingy)

February 06, 2013, 02:20:43 PM
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I think Sony and Microsoft didn't make it a mandatory thing because there are so few games that are JP/US/EU only anymore unlike in the 90's and 00's, making the copyright thing far less of a concern.  There are obviously still some, but not like the 4th and especially the 5th gen consoles.

I can't imagine Adventure Time NOT making it here.  It's sooooo popular and it's obviously an IP that's licensed here.  Unless there's some big dispute over distribution rights, I'd bet it'll make it here at some point.
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