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| SasoriSoren:
--- Quote from: DKBananas on December 16, 2012, 11:16:31 AM ---I live in the Great State of No Jersey. Here there is a multistage process to purchase a handgun. First you need to obtain a firearms ID card which includes a Federal level background check, fingerprinting, and Mental health background check. Once that all clears the chief of police of your municipality has to personally sign your card. This card also has your finger print on it and allows you to transport long-arms and shotguns. It does not automatically allow you to buy anything nor does it allow you to carry, just transport from the store to home or from the range/field to home. This process can take up to 10 months to complete. Next you apply for a pistol purchase permit. This includes more background checks, I think at the Sate level, personal reference questionnaires are sent out contacts, and again the chief of police signs the permit. It is only good for 90 days and only one can be purchased per 30 day period. Then you can go to the store and pick up your firearm, but not after one last check is performed. The FFL seller calls the NICS system which is a nationwide system of instant background checks. If you have an outstanding warrant, i think owe child support, or another reason they choose you can not purchase the firearm, even if you pass all the other checks. I mention all this because most people have no idea what it takes to buy in the very restrictive states like NY, NJ, CT, CA etc. This process is not the same across the country. I'm not an expert on the matter. Just my personal experience. There is plenty of reading on the individual state websites if you want to get more Facts. --- End quote --- That is a very stringent policy. I wish we had something like that here in Oregon. Instead the guy who shot up our mall probably grabbed them with no checks at a pawn shop. |
| tiktektak:
--- Quote from: DKBananas on December 16, 2012, 11:16:31 AM ---I live in the Great State of No Jersey. Here there is a multistage process to purchase a handgun. First you need to obtain a firearms ID card which includes a Federal level background check, fingerprinting, and Mental health background check. Once that all clears the chief of police of your municipality has to personally sign your card. This card also has your finger print on it and allows you to transport long-arms and shotguns. It does not automatically allow you to buy anything nor does it allow you to carry, just transport from the store to home or from the range/field to home. This process can take up to 10 months to complete. Next you apply for a pistol purchase permit. This includes more background checks, I think at the Sate level, personal reference questionnaires are sent out contacts, and again the chief of police signs the permit. It is only good for 90 days and only one can be purchased per 30 day period. Then you can go to the store and pick up your firearm, but not after one last check is performed. The FFL seller calls the NICS system which is a nationwide system of instant background checks. If you have an outstanding warrant, i think owe child support, or another reason they choose you can not purchase the firearm, even if you pass all the other checks. I mention all this because most people have no idea what it takes to buy in the very restrictive states like NY, NJ, CT, CA etc. This process is not the same across the country. I'm not an expert on the matter. Just my personal experience. There is plenty of reading on the individual state websites if you want to get more Facts. --- End quote --- And if you buy a gun in a neighbouring state with softer gun laws? Is every person searched at state borders in the US? Otherwise it doesn't has any use that some state laws are strict. Here in austria (the whole country) you aren't allowed to own a gun except if you do a dangerous job like money transportation or police officer. Those special jobs get restricted gun owning rights but you have to obtain a gun license and each gun you own (a maximum of two handguns is allowed) is registered to your name and you have to do a detailed mental checkup and regular gun training. If you even point your gun at anotehr citizen without any really really good reason you loose all your rights to own a weapon at once. At home you have to store your guns in a locked cabinet where only you have access (you have to sotre the keys away). It is also mandatory to always store the ammunition seperated from the gun(s). Semi-automatic weapons or automiatci weapons are strictly prohibited! Only military persons and specially trained police personal are allowed to carry them! |
| wiggy:
^^^ Crossing state lines here is like crossing the street. I.e. ZERO search. |
| DKBananas:
I can not go to another state and legally purchase a handgun and transport it back. It has to go through a federal firearms dealer who would have to ship the firearm to another ffl dealer in the state I live in. All the prerequisites still apply. Then you could pay the transfer fees and take delivery. Buying handguns without residency in other states is just false. Long arms is a little different but you still have to pass the NICS instant background check. side note Austria and Germany make some of the best firearms in the world. |
| wiggy:
I learned from a friend who's into guns that we have HUGE local gun conventions and that pretty much any state or federal regs are essentially thrown out the window. He says you can buy rifles, shotguns, handguns, etc essentially without any of the rules and requirements that would normally apply. ^^^ You could walk in and buy a handgun. |
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