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| SasoriSoren:
If you are a nut you will kill, but you wouldn't be able to do so at the pace of a hundred rounds in a short space of time if you didn't have a gun, and other people have the ability to defend themselves. I don't mind people owning hunting rifles or handguns for their homes, but this guy had an assault weapon. This is where I draw the line. No one outside the military has any use for an assault weapon. But the current interpretation of the Second Amendment, and the shifting of public focus from "Gun Control" to "Constitutional Freedoms" thanks to careful right wing manipulation of how the subject is approached, makes it impossible to change this law. But how many more men, women and children need to die before we do something? With this interpretation of the Second Amendment we as a nation cannot restrict who you can sell firearms to, in Michigan, the SCOTUS ruling was used to overturn the use of background checks before firearm sales. We cannot pass a law to make it harder to obtain weapons thanks to the SCOTUS. We can't even create a government subsidized licensing process, which would be free for the citizens, so they could be licensed and tested before owning a firearm. There is only one thing we can do, amend the constitution so that way we can. Like I said before, I don't have a problem with responsible people owning guns. I know how to shoot guns myself just in case a situation arrives where I need to shoot one, but this open to all policy doesn't work when the world has sociopaths in it. |
| sheep2001:
--- Quote from: SasoriSoren on December 15, 2012, 11:07:20 AM ---I don't have a problem with responsible people owning guns. --- End quote --- Most people aren't born socio/psychopaths. Some kind of breakdown occurs. 2 of my school friends had mental breakdowns - not the kind where you would go on a killing spree, but both required hospitalization. Both happened in their late 20's early 30's. Responsible gun owners can go on a killing spree just as easily as a sociopath who subsequently acquires a gun. Thankfully living in Europe it's harder to obtain guns here (Although i am in rural France, and most farmers are hunters and are therefore gun owners). The gun problem in the US is never going to improve, as too many lobbyist think it's your right to own a gun. The only way to improve the situation is to take that right away. I cannot begin to imagine what those poor families are now going through, all the more poignant for it being the holiday season, as they will be reminded of these vile events every year at this time. |
| palmer6strings:
I a gun owner. I will always continue to own guns. And it is our right to own guns. I will own a class 3 weapon if i want and its none of anyones bisiness if i do so. if you say i should be able to own a gun maybe i should say you shouldnt be able to speak freely. It's not my fault that kid decided to kill. If we didn't have guns, it would have been something else he killed with. (a modified nail gun, knives, bombs...) so would you then say we arnt allowed to own a nail gun? Or kitchen utensils? This is a real bad situation yes, and I feel bad for all the families and such. But seriously. It's not the freaking guns. It's the dumb ass people. I'm extremely tired of people saying I shouldn't be able to own a gun. Because if my right gets taken away. They should have thier right taken away. Also if our gun rights get taken away, the government is going to become way more powerful then they already are which is way to much in the first place. |
| n64gamer4ever:
--- Quote from: palmer6strings on December 15, 2012, 11:57:06 AM ---Also if our gun rights get taken away, the government is going to become way more powerful then they already are which is way to much in the first place. --- End quote --- Exactly. We've been guaranteed the right to gun ownership because our founders knew, because of the tyranny that they fought from, that as a last resort we would need it should our government grow to the point of being a group of tyrants. For those that are international to want to say we should look at our gun laws, I say look where we would be had our citizens not had guns back in 1776. We would still be under the British Crown, and have never been the greatest experiment of Liberty. Unless you are from the US, and understand why the Revolution was fought, you really don't know what true Liberty and freedom is all about. Unfortunately our liberties have been eroded over time, by both the Left and the Right. But, the right to bear arms is not in the Constitution so that we will all be free to hunt game and have food. It's to keep the government in check. If you take guns away, and you take EVERY right that we have away. |
| redsox2012:
--- Quote from: RealPlumpBox on December 15, 2012, 12:31:59 AM --- --- Quote from: redsox2012 on December 15, 2012, 12:14:05 AM ---I live in CT, and I have a 5 year old son who goes to Kindergarten. It's tough to comprehend what happened. --- End quote --- were in CT if you dont mind me asking??? --- End quote --- Berlin |
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