Author Topic: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers  (Read 1320 times)

November 12, 2012, 05:17:42 PM
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Im going to have to disagree with you on the NES cover, and agree with what shenske pointed out about your Wolfchild cover. He knows what hes talking about. I was actually the one who approved that Section Z cover and theres nothing wrong with its quality. Sure any cover will look pixelated if you zoom in enough but I dont think thats the point. Moire effect cant usually be completely repaired without washing out the details of the artwork or bringing down the overall sharpness and quality. Like shenske pointed out, theres no detail left in the fur of the wolf because its been washed out which was probably because the original art source wasnt the greatest to begin with. BTW, mobygames is NEVER a suitable site for artwork worthy of our standards...

Just comparing your wolfchild cover to our SNES wolfchild cover can show the difference, and to be honest even our SNES cover could use a few minor tweaks which would improve the overall quality.

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Looking at the two makes it clear to see the difference in detail and personally, the one on the right looks better to me.

Sure it can be upsetting when your cover gets turned down, but your cover was turned down for quality reasons and its not like thats something we just do around here for fun. We want covers that meet our standards so there will be no need to update them in the future. Sure we have plenty of old covers that could use updating and it seems like everybody who gets offended by our standards, runs straight for that boat (I did once when I was new around here). Things have changed over the years and quality standards have improved and theres nothing wrong with that. And personally, Im happy for that because it pushed me to make better quality work and now Im a cover admin whos made plenty of high quality covers for everyone to enjoy. If your cover doesnt meet our standards but is still useful to others, theres nothing stopping them from enjoying it from the link you posted.



Actually, I don't care if my work is used. The individual that made this post requested his desire to see my work used. I was just poking holes in shenske arguments as to why my work wasn't up to site standards. After all, this type of work is my profession. I've been doing it for 12 years. I'm beyond this. I spit out these covers on my lunch break. So, I'm just having fun with this post. Most of the retorts crack me up. None the less, I don't lose in this scenario. This site should be so lucky that I even offered to do this type of work for free because we charge butt loads for this type of work. If the site wasn't run by a bunch of -------, you would probably have a lot more free work. Your comparison is a testament to how bad ass I am as I took a low res picture and bumped it up in quality.


« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 07:07:56 PM by segamer »

November 12, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
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If the site wasn't run by a bunch of -------, you would probably have a lot more free work. Your comparison is a testament to how bad ass I am as I took a low res picture and bumped it up in quality.

Your really loving that edit button!

Well I guess that would makes a few of us some pretty badass -------'s because Im pretty sure most of our regular artists could clean that up the same. Why would we be so lucky? Filters can work wonders. And Im not trying to be an ass here either. I dont think anyone here is trying to question your skill as to whether or not your capable of making covers of our quality. If you have 12 years experience, great for you. Why not try using the art from our SNES cover?

And sure were not getting paid for the time we put into making these covers. But that has nothing to do with why we make these covers anyway.

November 12, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
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Edit button. I will sometimes add to my topic instead of doing a new reply. However, frequently, I will get... "Waiting for Cover Project" or "Server is busy" so, I keep hitting the submit button. I'm not sure why you care so much.

And yes, if you'd had spent the time read this thread, you'd see that I've heavily complemented the cover artists of this site. I've been advocating that the site uses the artwork available on the forum because it sucks to have to bookmark forum threads to find covers. As it is, the site is missing hundreds and hundreds of covers and yet, they can be found on the fourms. The site is nitpicky. It has tones of sub-quality covers like Ultimate Mortal Kombat for Genesis or Super Mario All-Starts for SNES in it's main data base for download but It won't use hundreds of available because they have small imperfections that take two minutes to fix.

And no, I'm not just adding a simple filter. I have a process of upscaling low resolution work (Which I've already explained).

The site is wonderful. But get your act together. If the site has a standard take down all the work that doesn't meet your standard. Otherwise, make work by Wiggy, Arseen and many other available. Just put a note like wikipedia stating that the box is flawed, needs improving or something.

November 12, 2012, 10:51:38 PM
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The site is wonderful. But get your act together. If the site has a standard take down all the work that doesn't meet your standard. Otherwise, make work by Wiggy, Arseen and many other available.

I dont understand why you continue to attack the fact that we still have low quality covers on our site when its been said that we dont actually have the ability to remove old covers from the site. We can only replace them, which is something some of us have been slowly working on lately Isnt that getting our act together? Theres not even a whole lot of us that contribute high quality work on a regular basis to begin with, and those of us that do use our own free time when we have it. If we want a certain ammount of quality in our future uploads, why does that have to be such a problem?

Just cause someone critiqued your work (or w/e els happend) and you got offended doesnt make the rest of us a whatever you think we are. We must have something together to have made it this far...

November 12, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
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I will fix your covers. Give me a list. Tell me what you want changed and I'll do it on my break. There's a list of SNES Games on the forum for which there are downloads available. Most of the covers are usable but have slight imperfections. For example, the Wild Guns cover is nice but it's based on the European box which has a Titan logo on it. It's a 3 second fix. What else needs to be done to it?

This is where I post a lot of my work. Start Replacing. Most boxes should meet expectations and are better then the ones available. Others don't meet standards as I put them together quickly for fellow members.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=11578.0

November 16, 2012, 01:16:45 AM
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I'm really doing my best to stay out of this one ....

I just joined a two months ago. I've only downloaded the template recently. I would imaging most of the work posted on this site is with the outdated template.  Why aren't you complaining? If the tetris 3 templete is the newer template. The imperfections I just pointed out are still there, with the exception of the seal of quality. The entire back is... um.... stretched and low rez. Below your standard.

I updated the template earlier this year and i forgot to replace the one on the site.  I'm human, thanks for reminding me that we have an outdated template in the database.  I do not know if the template Tetris uses is the one I updated.  The ESRB text will stay as is, without retyping text can often look blurry when you zoom in.  Still easily legible fine print text does not fall below standard.


Actually, I don't care if my work is used. The individual that made this post requested his desire to see my work used. I was just poking holes in shenske arguments as to why my work wasn't up to site standards. After all, this type of work is my profession. I've been doing it for 12 years. I'm beyond this. I spit out these covers on my lunch break. So, I'm just having fun with this post. Most of the retorts crack me up. None the less, I don't lose in this scenario. This site should be so lucky that I even offered to do this type of work for free because we charge butt loads for this type of work. If the site wasn't run by a bunch of -------, you would probably have a lot more free work. Your comparison is a testament to how bad ass I am as I took a low res picture and bumped it up in quality.

I think your ego may be blinding you a bit. Not all of your work is below site standard. After looking through your scans there are definitely some that will make it through.  I'm not going to bow down and "feel lucky" that you decided to grace us with your Photoshop skills.  You did a fine job working on that wolfchild cover but you have to agree that side by side you can see some of the clarity loss from using a lower rez picture as your base.  I'm not denying that upconverting is possible I'm just telling you in this case its not going to make our cut.

Please don't compare your covers to some of the OLD covers we have on our database. I have already stated that our standards were not as strict years ago as they are now and they need replacing. I've also already stated we can't remove covers only replace them.  I'm glad you are willing to help us in replacing them  :)

I can tell that the criticism of your work has struck a nerve and i apologize for that.  I will not apologize for our strict standards. Its how we set ourselves apart from the other cover sites.


This is where I post a lot of my work. Start Replacing. Most boxes should meet expectations and are better then the ones available. Others don't meet standards as I put them together quickly for fellow members.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=11578.0

I'll look through them as see which ones we can up to the site for you  :)




My Covers that ARE NOT hosted on TCP
https://app.box.com/shared/hbm9k6fhvy

November 18, 2012, 05:11:14 PM
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Mighty Morphing Power Rangers Fighting Edition raws:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1r5a57xnbbutx

November 19, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
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November 19, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
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Me likey this veery much, thank you.

I'll alter it just a bit before adding it to The Shadow Project (aka my Verticakl US cover tracking topic).

At least I'll make the back text White and bit bigger, and maybe make the title logos match (maybe not).

November 19, 2012, 05:11:45 PM
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Me likey this veery much, thank you.

I'll alter it just a bit before adding it to The Shadow Project (aka my Verticakl US cover tracking topic).

At least I'll make the back text White and bit bigger, and maybe make the title logos match (maybe not).
Do whatever you wish to it. More often then not, when I download covers, I make alterations myself.

November 19, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
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I forgot to say that you did excelent cleaning on the front.
You softened it just right amount.

November 19, 2012, 05:19:17 PM
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I forgot to say that you did excelent cleaning on the front.
You softened it just right amount.

Thank you! I appreciate the complement.