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November 21, 2012, 03:45:51 PM
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How is everyones Wii U?
Some things I'm curious about.
When are they going to sell the GamePad separately? I saw on Wiki 2 are supported.
When transferring Wiiware and VC games from a Wii, does it remove it from the Wii? how is transferring done done?
Can a Classic Controller be used in place of a Pro Controller?
How do Wii games look in 1280p?

My Wii U is doing great.  ;D
So far I've heard that they won't be selling the gamepad separately in the US, maybe Japan, don't know about Europe.
When transferring your Wii memory it removes all memory from your Wii onto an SD card which you then insert into your Wii U and it removes all your Wii data and deletes it from the SD card.  All your saves, WiiWare and VC games will be moved and gone from your Wii.
Sadly, I don't know if it can or cannot.
A lot better I must say.

November 21, 2012, 03:52:35 PM
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To clear some things I know for sure up a bit.

Seperate WiiU controllers will be available mid 2013 the earliest. BigN says they aren't needed anyway as there will be no games supporting a second tablet controller until then.

Afaik the classic controller can only be used for Wii games. Sadly the Pro controller also can only be used for WiiU games. I would have loved to use the pro controller for Wii games....

Please don't assume the U changes anything for Wii games. Nintendo has clearly stated that the U will have NO upscaling capabilities. So the only picture quality gain you get could be because the U finally supports HDMI, if that makes the picture any better. Still all old Wii games run in 480p not 1080p. Do even WiiU games run in FullHD? I thought the will be rather 720p....
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November 21, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
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After you do the transfer, could I have Netflix running on the Wii and the Wii U? Not at the same time, but it would be nice to have a device running in each room rather than just one.


November 21, 2012, 06:44:03 PM
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How is everyones Wii U?
Some things I'm curious about.
When are they going to sell the GamePad separately? I saw on Wiki 2 are supported.
When transferring Wiiware and VC games from a Wii, does it remove it from the Wii? how is transferring done done?
Can a Classic Controller be used in place of a Pro Controller?
How do Wii games look in 1280p?

1. Very awesome! I'm having way too much fun with some of these games with my family and friends.

2. Not sure, probably in the next year or two. Playing most of these games, though, there isn't a use or need for a second gamepad, other than maybe FPS games.

3. Yes they are completely removed. It pretty much returns your Wii to the way it was when you got it, plus system updates.

4. As long as Wii Remote is an option, then yes. My friends and I were playing Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - One had the gamepad (and later the pro controller), one had Wii Remote + Nunchuk, and the other two were a Classic Controller and Classic Controller Pro. So they all work. This might be on a game-by-game basis though.

5. They look good, though they aren't exactly "upscaled" more than just displaying in 1080p, as far as I know they look the same otherwise. There's plenty of debate on this on the forums and news sites, regarding if it does or not. I can confirm the Wii U does display in full 1080p. Whether the games are 1080p or 720p is up to the developers of each game apparently.
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November 25, 2012, 05:12:39 AM
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We had someone sell us back a copy of Zombi U at work yesterday. The edges of the discs feel... weirdly smooth. There's no clear way to describe it. I can also confirm what shenske noted in another thread: The cases are almost the same color as the Austin Powers: Goldmember case (we just happened to have one of those that somebody sold us earlier in the day).

... And, of course, the used copy was priced: $59.99, same as a new copy. ::)

November 25, 2012, 06:28:38 AM
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Used same as new?!  WTF is that bullshit about?  >:(

To clear some things I know for sure up a bit.

Seperate WiiU controllers will be available mid 2013 the earliest. BigN says they aren't needed anyway as there will be no games supporting a second tablet controller until then.

Afaik the classic controller can only be used for Wii games. Sadly the Pro controller also can only be used for WiiU games. I would have loved to use the pro controller for Wii games....

Please don't assume the U changes anything for Wii games. Nintendo has clearly stated that the U will have NO upscaling capabilities. So the only picture quality gain you get could be because the U finally supports HDMI, if that makes the picture any better. Still all old Wii games run in 480p not 1080p. Do even WiiU games run in FullHD? I thought the will be rather 720p....

My friend, who is a total videophile, says that VC games on the U are upscaled despite what N says.  It pisses him off something fierce, and he says the only reason he ever DL'd any SNES games via VC is because they were pixel-perfect.

November 25, 2012, 08:50:49 AM
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That's corporate retail pricing for you. I'm sure it'll go down soon enough. Probably a few weeks at the most. There's no way it'll sell at that price when we've got more new copies of the game than we have systems. :D

November 25, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
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Used same as new?!  WTF is that bullshit about?  >:(

To clear some things I know for sure up a bit.

Seperate WiiU controllers will be available mid 2013 the earliest. BigN says they aren't needed anyway as there will be no games supporting a second tablet controller until then.

Afaik the classic controller can only be used for Wii games. Sadly the Pro controller also can only be used for WiiU games. I would have loved to use the pro controller for Wii games....

Please don't assume the U changes anything for Wii games. Nintendo has clearly stated that the U will have NO upscaling capabilities. So the only picture quality gain you get could be because the U finally supports HDMI, if that makes the picture any better. Still all old Wii games run in 480p not 1080p. Do even WiiU games run in FullHD? I thought the will be rather 720p....

My friend, who is a total videophile, says that VC games on the U are upscaled despite what N says.  It pisses him off something fierce, and he says the only reason he ever DL'd any SNES games via VC is because they were pixel-perfect.

I believe your friend is right. For one, I believe all N64 games were upscaled to 480p on the Wii, anyway, but more importantly, when the Wii U outputs via HDMI, it outputs at one specific resolution. For example, I have my Wii U set to 1080p, so it automatically upscales any-and-all content, including Wii mode content, into 1080p. Of course, this is a very basic upscale, with no attempts made to make the image look better, so it really has the same effect as the internal upscaler on most TVs. Even so, HDMI video is of a higher quality than Component, so VC games will look better regardless.

November 26, 2012, 11:39:19 AM
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How is everyones Wii U?
Some things I'm curious about.
When are they going to sell the GamePad separately? I saw on Wiki 2 are supported.
When transferring Wiiware and VC games from a Wii, does it remove it from the Wii? how is transferring done done?
Can a Classic Controller be used in place of a Pro Controller?
How do Wii games look in 1280p?
4. As long as Wii Remote is an option, then yes. My friends and I were playing Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 - One had the gamepad (and later the pro controller), one had Wii Remote + Nunchuk, and the other two were a Classic Controller and Classic Controller Pro. So they all work. This might be on a game-by-game basis though.

So, Call of Duty Black Ops 2.....Is five player!?!?!? Is this really true?

November 26, 2012, 03:17:38 PM
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Not sure about that.  We didnt try 5 people, just 4. Might be possible, since we can do 5 player on Mario U, Nintendo Land and Sonic Racing Transformed.
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November 27, 2012, 10:44:02 AM
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Not sure about that.  We didnt try 5 people, just 4. Might be possible, since we can do 5 player on Mario U, Nintendo Land and Sonic Racing Transformed.

Still, THIS, I'm buying Black Ops 2 now.

November 27, 2012, 11:25:24 AM
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Used same as new?!  WTF is that bullshit about?  >:(

To clear some things I know for sure up a bit.

Seperate WiiU controllers will be available mid 2013 the earliest. BigN says they aren't needed anyway as there will be no games supporting a second tablet controller until then.

Afaik the classic controller can only be used for Wii games. Sadly the Pro controller also can only be used for WiiU games. I would have loved to use the pro controller for Wii games....

Please don't assume the U changes anything for Wii games. Nintendo has clearly stated that the U will have NO upscaling capabilities. So the only picture quality gain you get could be because the U finally supports HDMI, if that makes the picture any better. Still all old Wii games run in 480p not 1080p. Do even WiiU games run in FullHD? I thought the will be rather 720p....

My friend, who is a total videophile, says that VC games on the U are upscaled despite what N says.  It pisses him off something fierce, and he says the only reason he ever DL'd any SNES games via VC is because they were pixel-perfect.

I believe your friend is right. For one, I believe all N64 games were upscaled to 480p on the Wii, anyway, but more importantly, when the Wii U outputs via HDMI, it outputs at one specific resolution. For example, I have my Wii U set to 1080p, so it automatically upscales any-and-all content, including Wii mode content, into 1080p. Of course, this is a very basic upscale, with no attempts made to make the image look better, so it really has the same effect as the internal upscaler on most TVs. Even so, HDMI video is of a higher quality than Component, so VC games will look better regardless.

I think better is a relative term. I'd rather they be pixel-for-pixel than upscaled into some other resolution personally.


Also, thought I'd leave this bag o' fail here since its semi-related.

http://www.nintendo.com/wiimini?country=CA&lang=en/

November 27, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
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No Internet or network connectivity mean there's no further firmware updates for wii?

November 27, 2012, 12:21:23 PM
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No Internet or network connectivity mean there's no further firmware updates for wii?

Well not for anything but the last 2 Wii updates were mainly to prevent people from installing homebrew and that didn't work out as planned lol.

But the no internet connectivity isn't that bad I guess...The only game I really played online was Mario Kart and even that I stopped once cheaters and hackers started taking over the races.

Hopefully though they'll bring it stateside...it looks like a nice little system and really that's what the "Family Edition" Wii should've been all along
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November 27, 2012, 12:23:55 PM
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No Internet or network connectivity mean there's no further firmware updates for wii?

Well not for anything but the last 2 Wii updates were mainly to prevent people from installing homebrew and that didn't work out as planned lol.

But the no internet connectivity isn't that bad I guess...The only game I really played online was Mario Kart and even that I stopped once cheaters and hackers started taking over the races.

Hopefully though they'll bring it stateside...it looks like a nice little system and really that's what the "Family Edition" Wii should've been all along

I don't think it will sell that well,  so I would like to pick one up for collections sake.