Thoughts on Zelda OOT & MM

[tbonesteak4dinner]

You clearly have absolutely no concept of "odd" so I'll let your little jab slide.

Majora's Mask is possibly put together a little better than Ocarina. You'll find it's pretty short though. The mini quests (i.e. getting the masks) are where Majora's Mask shines, in addition to the overall aesthetic - the imagery in MM is STUNNING. You left a lot of the extras incomplete with Ocarina, so I'd really urge you to complete MM to 100%. The beauty of this game is in the details, if you blow through it then it'll go too fast and you'll miss out on what makes it a great game.

[Arseen]

Yep. After you figure out how to maipulate time. Majora's Mask comes very good.

I think part of the excentriness of MM is explained by:

Ocarina of Time was originally suppose to come out on 64DD and was suppose to be way larger and have real time events thanks to 64DD's internal clock.
Then the 64DD got abandoned.
OoT got shortened and real time events were forced to be left out.

And Nintendo just didn't want to throw the scraps away so they made MM out of the stuff.

That is my theory, how correct I don't know.

[tbonesteak4dinner]

Yep. After you figure out how to maipulate time. Majora's Mask comes very good.

I think part of the excentriness of MM is explained by:

Ocarina of Time was originally suppose to come out on 64DD and was suppose to be way larger and have real time events thanks to 64DD's internal clock.
Then the 64DD got abandoned.
OoT got shortened and real time events were forced to be left out.

And Nintendo just didn't want to throw the scraps away so they made MM out of the stuff.

That is my theory, how correct I don't know.

Close, the Ura Zelda for the 64DD became Master Quest.

Majora's Mask was actually a rushed project. Ocarina of Time did so well that Nintendo pushed for a sequel to capitalize on Ocarina's success. The Majora's Mask development team (same team from Ocarina) was given only 18 months (IIRC) to make another complete Zelda game, and so the only way that this was feasible was by reusing a ton of content from Ocarina. Thus why Majora's Mask uses most of the same player models and reuses the same engine. They're the only two Zelda games to share a single engine.

[Arseen]

Yep. After you figure out how to maipulate time. Majora's Mask comes very good.

I think part of the excentriness of MM is explained by:

Ocarina of Time was originally suppose to come out on 64DD and was suppose to be way larger and have real time events thanks to 64DD's internal clock.
Then the 64DD got abandoned.
OoT got shortened and real time events were forced to be left out.

And Nintendo just didn't want to throw the scraps away so they made MM out of the stuff.

That is my theory, how correct I don't know.

Close, the Ura Zelda for the 64DD became Master Quest.

Majora's Mask was actually a rushed project. Ocarina of Time did so well that Nintendo pushed for a sequel to capitalize on Ocarina's success. The Majora's Mask development team (same team from Ocarina) was given only 18 months (IIRC) to make another complete Zelda game, and so the only way that this was feasible was by reusing a ton of content from Ocarina. Thus why Majora's Mask uses most of the same player models and reuses the same engine. They're the only two Zelda games to share a single engine.

Nope, the URA zelda was going to be much more.
Supposedly 2 new tunics, 2 new dungeons, 2 new medallions, time related events, ocarina stones, ....


We can only hope that some day someone manages to obtain the URA Zelda, maybe finish it and release it as 64DD disc. We can only hope.

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Edit: Sorry I confused Ura Zelda and what OoT was supposed to originally be.

[tbonesteak4dinner]

What I meant was everything they had finished so far for Ura Zelda became Master Quest.

The extra Dungeons, Tunics, and Medallions were all planned, but had not yet been actually worked on (as far as we know).

I agree, it'd be awesome if that content got finished and was released in the future. Maybe as a new console remake of Ocarina? 

[Arseen]

Kept reading bit more and:
I confused Ura Zelda and what OoT was supposed to originally be.

[tbonesteak4dinner]

Kept reading bit more and:
I confused Ura Zelda and what OoT was supposed to originally be.

Ooooh yep, now I see - you're thinking of the Wind Temple and Light temple that were supposed to be in Ocarina originally right?

[Arseen]

Kept reading bit more and:
I confused Ura Zelda and what OoT was supposed to originally be.

Ooooh yep, now I see - you're thinking of the Wind Temple and Light temple that were supposed to be in Ocarina originally right?

I think one was supposed to be Ice Temple, so maybe larger version of the cave in the adult world Zora domain?

[tbonesteak4dinner]

I think one was supposed to be Ice Temple, so maybe larger version of the cave in the adult world Zora domain?

*Runs over to Zelda Wiki*

Yep, you're correct. The Ice Temple and Light Temple were originally planned as a full dungeon. The Ice Temple was scrapped in favor of the Water Temple - those elements then became the Ice Cavern. The Wind Temple is actually the original version of the Forest Temple before they changed it. The fans in the Shadow Temple are supposedly left over from the Wind Temple as well.

Not much info on what became of that Light Temple though...

[JDavis]

They're the only two Zelda games to share a single engine.

*cough*ORACLE*cough*

[Arseen]

They're the only two Zelda games to share a single engine.

*cough*ORACLE*cough*

[larryinc64]

I plan on at least getting all the masks and going though the entire journal. Can you continue to play after you beat Skull Kid?
I am not rushing, I spent my first days of gameplay, (IRL, not in game days) running around towns.
Masks:
Deku
Goron
Blast
Grate Fairy
Mask Of Scents
Keyton
Berman
Bunny Hood
Kafel
Kammero

[Maben]

You can continue to play, it's the same as other Zelda games...you just can't save after you beat the game.  Your final save will have all the masks and everything and will start up at Day 1 (like always).  When you beat the final boss you simply go to cutscene/credits.

[tbonesteak4dinner]

They're the only two Zelda games to share a single engine.

*cough*ORACLE*cough*

Haha fair enough - but those are really one game. They were released simultaneously and you need both to see the real ending. 

[tbonesteak4dinner]

I plan on at least getting all the masks and going though the entire journal. Can you continue to play after you beat Skull Kid?
I am not rushing, I spent my first days of gameplay, (IRL, not in game days) running around towns.
Masks:
Deku
Goron
Blast
Grate Fairy
Mask Of Scents
Keyton
Berman
Bunny Hood
Kafel
Kammero

Awesome, yeah this is the way to do things. And you've gotta see the Moon crash down at least once, it's awesome. It won't hurt anything either, just make sure you've banked stuff and such.