Most Prized In Collection - What you got + How Much $$?

[Pikmin Overlord]

The price issue is something that, as a collector, you have to accept. If you really cherish what it is that you collect, then the price you pay will always be less of a factor.

However, I think I can understand where Moviefan2k4 is coming from, and I'm relatively sure that most of us, as collectors, have reflected his feelings at one time or another. Unless you collect with the sole purpose of turning a profit in the future, then there must have been a time when you simply wished that all games were priced at $5 each so that you could acquire all of your favourites. The Mega Man 5s would cost no more than the Bases Loaded 2s, and life as someone whose joy is derived simply from building up his game library would be pretty sweet. $5 for Little Samson? Sign me up!

Sadly, that's not the reality of the situation. As stated over and over, supply and demand plays a large role in these prices. Now, perhaps Moviefan2k4 takes the following position: "If people didn't pay these outrageous prices, then the prices themselves would inevitably have to come down." I know I've had similar thoughts in the past. Eventually though, if you plan on collecting games, then that's a reality you have to face. Unfortunately, it means that people like Moviefan2k4 who aren't necessarily "collectors" but have an interest in purchasing a game to play, end up suffering as a result.

[Moviefan2k4]

The only difference is that your "stance" is presented in an insulting and offensive manner, whereas we are only citing what we've paid for a particular game or games, which has nothing to do with you or your opinions.  How would you like it if we all replied sighting a decision of yours as "absurd" or "foolish"?   People pay more than 20 bucks for games sometimes.  Get over it.

Who exactly am I deliberately insulting or offending? I said that people who make such decisions are behaving foolishly, but I'm not being malicious toward anyone personally. If my statements upset people, sorry, but I'm not responsible for their reactions. The same also holds true the other way, but lots of folks in the world don't know how to criticize the choice instead of the person.

[AO007]

I collect games to play. So having to fork over $100+ for a game doesn't sit right with me.

However, I feel as long as the game doesn't exceed its original MSRP, and has been proven to be a great game, then it's "reasonable".

For example, it wouldn't be right to see a game like the original Crash Bandicoot sell for 50 cents, while something like Jet Moto sells for $10. I think that should be the other way around(And thankfully that seems to be the case).

At the same time, $100 for something like Earthbound or Shantae, especially a cart-only copy, is ridiculous even if I happened to like the games.

My favorite game of all time, Yoshi's Island SNES, only demands like $15-$20 cart-only, and probaly 5x that much for a complete copy.

Supply & Demand is a factor, but in some cases even ONE transaction could change the price dramatically.

To add to all this is the luck factor. People can get lucky and find stuff like Earthbound or Shantae at a pawn shop for dirt cheap because they don't know what they have is valuable, although I find that as the years pass, it becomes harder and harder to "score" at pawn shops, probaly due to people picking them up over the years. A few years ago I could find valuable SNES and N64 games rather easily, but over the past year or so it's gotten quite difficult to find anything even remotely decent.

[pneboy]

@Moviefan2k4

Dude, why do you even post in these types of threads? Is it just to antagonize people?

Not at all, but the way I figure it, if folks are willing to mention how they pay tons of cash for a game, then I should have the same freedom to make my stance known against it. Even if I had $100 or more to spend on each game I wanted, I'd still look for the cheapest deal; its called being sensible. On average, I could probably get between 7 & 10 Blu-Ray movies for $100, maybe even more...so anyone spending the same amount on a 20-year-old game cartridge sounds very foolish to me.

someones going the right way for a ban hammer

[Moviefan2k4]

What good reason would anyone have for banning me, when I haven't been threatening or insulting people? Last time I checked, freedom was not just awarded to people who always agree with one another.

[tiktektak]

What good reason would anyone have for banning me, when I haven't been threatening or insulting people? Last time I checked, freedom was not just awarded to people who always agree with one another.

Still you should also leave other people the freedom to choose what THEY want to spend their money on.
Your posts sound like you think your way off seeing things is the only right and "normal" way.....

[Arseen]

What good reason would anyone have for banning me, when I haven't been threatening or insulting people? Last time I checked, freedom was not just awarded to people who always agree with one another.

Let's see

I'm not being malicious toward anyone personally.

Can be read: I'm just malicious toward you all as a group.

Spam part your texts is that you keep repeating your opinion over and over and over again.
We know you don't like paying big bucks for games and you are not a collector.
Many of us don't mind paying and are serious collectors.

So no mentioning of how foolish paying big bucks is or spamming other people's topics. OK?

If you want to complain about it feel free to start one topic for it and complain there.
But remember no double posting, so you have to keep your rant in one post.

That way we can ignore your comments easier

[palmer6strings]

What good reason would anyone have for banning me, when I haven't been threatening or insulting people? Last time I checked, freedom was not just awarded to people who always agree with one another.

That's like saying Christians are dumb for believing in something you don't think is real.
Or that people who listen to heavy metal worship Satan.

It is all a matter of opinion yes, and yes you do have your freedom to say what you want, but is there really a point in the negative criticism? Not really, just because you like to do things your way, doesn't make someone else foolish for doing it thier way.

So all in all, calling people as a whole "foolish" is an insult. Because there are MANY gamers here who pay alot of money for games.

[palmer6strings]

Arseen got to it before I did lol

My phones Being a bit of a pain Today... It must be the heat.

[games-go-round]

...wow, this thread got off-topic in a hurry~!

[AO007]

There are people that willingly pay $60 for games that are arguably worth 1/4 of that. (Referring to current-gen games mostly)

I would much rather pay $60 for a good old game than $60 for a crappy new one. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's good. In fact, one could argue that part of the reason that some game sretain their value is because they're proven to be, well... GOOD.

[Forte]

Most I've ever paid for a game: $300 dollars on Mega Man (Game Gear).  This game is a pain in the ass to find complete, probably the hardest in the NTSC collection outside of Mega Man V for Game Boy. Luckily, I sold my extra cart and manual for 125 bucks so that helped eat into the cost (paid 30 for them).

Second Most I've ever paid for a game: $300 for Rockman Collection (PS1 & PS2). Not so much a game as a box set of 7 games (Rockman Complete Works 1-6 and Rockman X7) sealed in box.

Most prized game in my collection: Mega Man 9 Press Kit. I know, not a game. But I got this from Capcom.com for 50 dollars during a limited release (50 or 100) and was very happy my order went through. I still even have the box they shipped it to me in and the packing slip!

Runner-up for most prized game: Mega Man: The Wily Wars. I got this on ebay with a Mega Key (allows PAL play on NTSC consoles) for 54 dollars shipped. Awesome deal, awesome game. Definitely one of my favorites.

[wiggy]

The only difference is that your "stance" is presented in an insulting and offensive manner, whereas we are only citing what we've paid for a particular game or games, which has nothing to do with you or your opinions.  How would you like it if we all replied sighting a decision of yours as "absurd" or "foolish"?   People pay more than 20 bucks for games sometimes.  Get over it.

Who exactly am I deliberately insulting or offending? I said that people who make such decisions are behaving foolishly, but I'm not being malicious toward anyone personally. If my statements upset people, sorry, but I'm not responsible for their reactions. The same also holds true the other way, but lots of folks in the world don't know how to criticize the choice instead of the person.

Deliberate, malicious, and personal are NOT in any of my posts.  There's this word known as "neglect".  Look it up, because you clearly don't understand its implication in my post(s).

What good reason would anyone have for banning me, when I haven't been threatening or insulting people? Last time I checked, freedom was not just awarded to people who always agree with one another.

This is a forum, not a country.  Freedom of expression is NOT a given here, the same as it wouldn't be in somebody's house, a restaurant, or any other privately owned property/space, virtual or physical.

If we were in a shop together and I had just spent $100 on a game, would you immediately come over and site my purchase as foolish?  I really, REALLY doubt it.  So maybe doing so here isn't the best plan either.

[sheep2001]

The way of the world is that things in higher demand,  command higher prices (designer clothes, electronics, food at high class restaurants, even supermarkets) some of us will pay those prices for things we want -  you (moviefan) obviously won't.

I assume from your comments about how stupid it is to pay more for something in demand,  that you don't eat at nice places,  you never buy designer goods, and you are using an old CRT tv, or at least a non branded LCD?  If that's your ethos, then great, at least we now know - and you can stop preaching it in every damn thread.  If its not your ethos, and you only apply this logic to game collecting, then why the hell are you here? And that is a rhetorical question by the way,  I'm really not interested in any response.

[Moviefan2k4]

The way of the world is that things in higher demand,  command higher prices (designer clothes, electronics, food at high class restaurants, even supermarkets) some of us will pay those prices for things we want -  you (moviefan) obviously won't.

Not when I can get the same things (or a close equivalent) for much cheaper.

I assume from your comments about how stupid it is to pay more for something in demand,  that you don't eat at nice places,  you never buy designer goods, and you are using an old CRT tv, or at least a non branded LCD?  If that's your ethos, then great, at least we now know - and you can stop preaching it in every damn thread.  If its not your ethos, and you only apply this logic to game collecting, then why the hell are you here? And that is a rhetorical question by the way,  I'm really not interested in any response.

Well, obviously you are, because otherwise you'd have left that last sentence alone. I'm mostly a man of simpler tastes; I'd like to have more money, but not so much that I didn't know what to do with it. I'd want enough to live comfortably, but not extravagantly, and to help those I love to do the same. I'd want to be a blessing to others, instead of keeping everything myself.

Now, here's my question for you: how does any of that information relate to my statements about game prices? Wiggy mentioned the word "neglect", and I admit I've done that with some things in my life...but how is that an accurate description for everything else? I don't deliberately intend to hurt people, but I won't apologize for being politically incorrect. I do my best to say what I mean, and mean what I say; its easier that way.