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| satoshi_matrix:
a buddy of mine can do the NES S-video mod, but it'll cost several hundred dollars because of the extensive reworking it requires. If you're still interested, pm me. |
| mariocaseman:
Can I just buy these for my composite systems (NES Top-loader, Master System II and Genesis / CD / 32X combo) to get a better picture without doing mods? I live in the USA so idk if this would give me that RGB quality I hear so much about? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Composite-RCA-S-Video-to-Component-RGB-Video-Converter-/230684660505?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item35b5e09319 |
| tbonesteak4dinner:
--- Quote from: mariocaseman on August 01, 2012, 06:57:28 PM ---Can I just buy these for my composite systems (NES Top-loader, Master System II and Genesis / CD / 32X combo) to get a better picture without doing mods? I live in the USA so idk if this would give me that RGB quality I hear so much about? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Composite-RCA-S-Video-to-Component-RGB-Video-Converter-/230684660505?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item35b5e09319 --- End quote --- Nope, that won't help you one bit - It needs to come from the chip that way or else you'd still see the same fuzzy video, just using a different cable. To explain briefly - a composite video cable contains luminance (essentially the brightness), chrominance (all three color types, in hue and saturation), and the horizontal and vertical sync pulses all in one cable. Since all of these signals are being sent along the same line, they interact and cause interference with each other. This is why composite video is fuzzy, and the color is somewhat flat. So, if the console outputs composite video, putting that signal into a converter will yield exactly the same picture. The converter will definitely split everything into separate RGB and sync channels, but only AFTER everything was already jumbled together by the composite video output. Once all of those signals are mixed together, they can never be cleanly pulled apart. |
| zakurowrath:
--- Quote from: tbonesteak4dinner on August 01, 2012, 07:12:18 PM --- --- Quote from: mariocaseman on August 01, 2012, 06:57:28 PM ---Can I just buy these for my composite systems (NES Top-loader, Master System II and Genesis / CD / 32X combo) to get a better picture without doing mods? I live in the USA so idk if this would give me that RGB quality I hear so much about? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Composite-RCA-S-Video-to-Component-RGB-Video-Converter-/230684660505?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item35b5e09319 --- End quote --- Nope, that won't help you one bit - It needs to come from the chip that way or else you'd still see the same fuzzy video, just using a different cable. To explain briefly - a composite video cable contains luminance (essentially the brightness), chrominance (all three color types, in hue and saturation), and the horizontal and vertical sync pulses all in one cable. Since all of these signals are being sent along the same line, they interact and cause interference with each other. This is why composite video is fuzzy, and the color is somewhat flat. So, if the console outputs composite video, putting that signal into a converter will yield exactly the same picture. The converter will definitely split everything into separate RGB and sync channels, but only AFTER everything was already jumbled together by the composite video output. Once all of those signals are mixed together, they can never be cleanly pulled apart. --- End quote --- He's right if you come from a composite signal and convert it to an RGB or Component Signal, it will look horrible. He pretty much outlined most of the aspects why it wont look great, another to keep in mind is that the RGB signal is 3 pure signals directly from the video processor chip where's composite has to be encoded by a separate encoder chip before it becomes composite video hence the more encoding you do to a signal the lesser quality the signal becomes. Hear no more, now you can see Composite vs S-Video vs RGB vs Emulator. The emulator is just for reference and a scanline generator is introduced in the Composite, S-Video & RGB pictures. Composite: S-Video: RGB: Emulator: Composite: S-Video: RGB: Emulator: |
| mariocaseman:
Ok so how can I get RGB? Is a MOD my only option? I've heard about just using cables to get it.. SCART cables maybe..? SCART and RGB or something? Ring any bells? I live in the US by the way if that matters. |
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