Mega Man X rant

[satoshi_matrix]

Yeah, the defeating of certain bosses impacting other bosses is something I'm almost positive is another aspect that makes Megaman X1 unique. It's a cool idea that wasn't carried on for whatever reason. For many years I didn't even realize there was a ton of lava etc in Flame Mammoth's stage because I would always go after Chill Penguin first.

Sometimes I go to Chill's stage to get the Dash capsule, and then deliberately die so I am taken back to the stage select and from there go after Flame Mammoth or whoever else first.

MAN I love Megaman X.

[Dr.Agon]

So you really want the second warning. (see your last post on the other topic for the first)?

Still kidding ... maybe?

sorry dude!, posted that before id even read this!
...but with the ammount of swearing that generally goes on around here i thought id be safe
(made me lol anyway)

[Arseen]

 

Press quote on both posts and read the fine print.

Besides I'm Finn and don't mind the swearing.

[ShaggyB]

I recently got a copy of Mega Man X for the SNES from a friend recently, It was free. I have never really sat down and play a Mega Man game before, minus Mega Man 64 and I just now started to play it and I came into it with high expectations because of all the praise I heard for it. I begin to play it for around a hour and quit due to how frustrating the game is.

Mega Man controls well but he can only shoot forward, but not all enemies are directly in-front of you. Some swoop down from the sky and some are slightly to tall, and the place you shoot is a few pixels above the bullet when standing. With some, you can charge and that makes your bullet bigger, but a lot of the time you have no time to do it, so it becomes a game of rapidly jumping and shooting in place. If you are surrounded, like I got a few times with floating pink things in the intro stage, your screwed, your only hope is to jump and shoot and hope your life does not run out.

The previous thing would not be as big of a problem if it was not for this one flaw that makes the game more difficult than it has to be, and that is re-spawning enemies. The enemies have a place in the stage where they spawn. If you kill one and scroll the screen away from the spawn point and put it back into frame, it re-spawns. There were many times where a enemy would spawn and come after me and I was not in a good place to shoot it so i move back a little bit and kill it. I continue onward and the enemy immediately re-spawns, so I have to move back and kill it, and it re spawns again, and again and again and you are basically forced to just run past it and take a hit or memorize where these areas and Charge a head of time to get a bigger chance of hitting it from a distance if possible.
Some notable areas of this problem:
Intro stage: There was a part with flying pink things and another soon after with cars where they just gang up on you because it forces you to move around to combat them and as you move the ones you just killed re-spawn.
Chill Penguin: The snow balls rolling at you. There is a pit with one on the top, If you fall in the pit and wall jump up, the ball falls and hits you, knocking you down, where you jump back up and it re-spawns and hits you again, so you fall...

I played through the intro stage, started Bommer Kawander, but could not get past the first enemy, so I thought I needed another robots weapon, so I when to the forest stage and got to the boss and almost immediately died every time I got to the boss, so I figured I need another weapon, I when to Chill Penguin for the hell of it, Got the speed boots thing, and got to the boss, got some good hits but died a few times and then just rage quit.

It's annoying going through a stage to find out you do not have the right weapon to defeat the robot master, Chill penguin seems like you can defeat him with nothing special but by that time I was to irritated and could not concentrate. The gecko guy, whatever his name is, is nearly imposable, his attacks are hard to dodge with out the dash, which I did not have yet.

So tell me why is this game considered a flawless gem with that one major problem with the re-spawning? The other two I could overlook, but that problem makes the game very irritating.

Are you serious? So because enemies arent right in front of you and you actually might have to jump and shoot them... its a bad game? Because youve not yet figured out that there is no reason not to be charging your shot... its a bad game? Because you cant dash jump a pit and the snowball keeps hitting you.... its the games fault? Because you cant take the time to figure out whos weapon beats which boss easiest... its the games fault? (also keep in mind you can defeat most bosses, including the gecko, with just the start weapon... but its hard.)

What I get from your rant is that you want a super easy game where you dont have to think or discover anything. You want the skill level to be so low that the enemies practically die for you and hardly ever attack you. Perhaps classic games are not for you. Whatever you do... dont pick up a NES and Ninja Gaiden (The developers purposely set up that whole get hit and fall in a pit trap in almost every stage). Never play Mega Man 1 (there is no save or password feature and you still need to figure out the pattern/ kill things that swoop down at you). And for the sake of sanity.... dont let anyone talk you into trying Silver Surfer (You dont want to know what bad game design and insanely difficult are all about).

[Dr.Agon]

Press quote on both posts and read the fine print.

Besides I'm Finn and don't mind the swearing.

did, LOL'd, posted for the giggles anyway!

[wiggy]

[grumpy old man voice] Damn kids!  Back in the day we only had 3 lives, and NO continues!  You couldn't even jump forward, only up and down!  And Mario had to walk in snow, with no shoes, uphill both ways!  Damned kids, don't know how easy they've got it...[/grumpy old man voice]

But seriously, this really exemplifies how different games are today versus 20 years ago.  I can't say I'm surprised that people under 20 or so won't be able to get into a lot of the games from the 90's.

[Arseen]

Yeah gamers used to be about substance and challenge.

Now they are just graphics and gimmicks, few platformers excluded.

[palmer6strings]

Aw hell. I love this game. I remember buying it brand new with the money I earned when I was younger.

I must share this, It's by Egoraptor and its funny as shit! Plus its about Mega Man X!!!
 
http://youtu.be/8FpigqfcvlM

[WolfAlmighty]

I'll just leave this here for minatory viewing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FpigqfcvlM

Megaman X1 is seriously one of the best games ever made and that's a completely unbiased opinion despite how big of a Megaman fan I am. This video explains why.

Also Megaman games are all about figuring out the boss orders, but since you seem to have such difficulty with the easiest Megaman game I'll give it to you:

1. Chill Penguin
2. Storm Eagle
3. Flame Mammoth
4. Spark Mandrill
5. Armored Armadillo
6. Launch Octopus
7. Boomer Kuwanger
8. String Chameleon

How ironic, I just re-watched the Sequelitis videos last night because they crack me up!

Anyway, I always start with Flame Mammoth because I LOVE his flamethrower weapon, and then just do the bosses in weakness order from there.  Pretty much the same as you have above except it moves Chill Penguin to the second and puts Storm Eagle at the end (funny, since he's the easiest to beat with just the X-Buster).

[larryinc64]

@ ShaggyB we established I was sleep  deprived and oporating a machine is to difficult for me. I'm going to try again after sleep.

@Palmer6strings I saw that, that was one of the things that got me exsited.

@Wiggy, tecnicly, this game has unlimited continues, I think.

@Arseen I only own around 10 360 games, I perfer older games, I hate how alot of them have long-unskipable, tutorial levals. Its more funn to figure out on your own.

BTW, I have desided to stay awake and go to sleep at 9:00 PM or so so I can get back on scedual. Its curetly 11:03AM and I have been awake sence noon yesterday. Lests see how this lasts. I already feal very tired. I should probaly stop using a computer. I'm gona attempt to play Dragon Worrior.

[palmer6strings]

Good luck man, get dat sleep and try again tomorrow! I'm sure you will enjoy it.

[wiggy]

I was just making a general grumpy old gamer rant

There are tons of games that didn't have continues back then.

[WolfAlmighty]

@ ShaggyB we established I was sleep  deprived and oporating a machine is to difficult for me. I'm going to try again after sleep.

@Palmer6strings I saw that, that was one of the things that got me exsited.

@Wiggy, tecnicly, this game has unlimited continues, I think.

@Arseen I only own around 10 360 games, I perfer older games, I hate how alot of them have long-unskipable, tutorial levals. Its more funn to figure out on your own.

BTW, I have desided to stay awake and go to sleep at 9:00 PM or so so I can get back on scedual. Its curetly 11:03AM and I have been awake sence noon yesterday. Lests see how this lasts. I already feal very tired. I should probaly stop using a computer. I'm gona attempt to play Dragon Worrior.

Are you sure you're just sleepy?  Because you're typing as though you've recently been lobotomised. :p

[larryinc64]

Are you sure you're just sleepy?  Because you're typing as though you've recently been lobotomised. :p

I did let some mistakes slide, I have Firefox and it spell checks, I am fooling around a bit but some are genuine. But with the sleep thing, I pulled a all nighter yesterday, I remember because I was rearranging some shelves and systems at night and in the morning, but I honestly can't say If i fell asleep during the day. I think I did, and if I did it was not for too long.
After some thinking I probably got around 4 hours after noon.  It sucks next year I will probably have a summer job and be forced to keep a scheduled. all year.

BTW, you spelled lobotomized wrong. 

[wiggy]

British English uses an S for so many words that we use a Z for.