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S-Video N64 & SNES 2
mariocaseman:
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--- Quote from: mariocaseman on July 22, 2012, 04:54:09 PM ---Damn... My N64 looks a lot better! Do any of these systems have s-video WITHOUT needing a mod?
Sega 32X (plugged into a Genesis 2 with a Sega CD 2)
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
PSOne (mini)
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All of these except the 32x have an svideo cable you can buy. Not really sure if there is a svid cable for the 32 but positive on the others.
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So then NO on just the Genesis model 2 and Sega Cd model 2 as well? Because the video out is the same type, right?
zakurowrath:
--- Quote from: mariocaseman on July 22, 2012, 05:12:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: irvgotti452 on July 22, 2012, 05:06:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: mariocaseman on July 22, 2012, 04:54:09 PM ---Damn... My N64 looks a lot better! Do any of these systems have s-video WITHOUT needing a mod?
Sega 32X (plugged into a Genesis 2 with a Sega CD 2)
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
PSOne (mini)
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All of these except the 32x have an svideo cable you can buy. Not really sure if there is a svid cable for the 32 but positive on the others.
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So then NO on just the Genesis model 2 and Sega Cd model 2 as well? Because the video out is the same type, right?
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Right without a mod the Genesis only outputs RF, Composite & RGB. The 32x uses the Genesis RGB signal to produce it's picture and outputs the exact same signals. S-Video for the 32x is a nightmare to mod & create so RGB is easier and the better option since it's the best video signal you can get in the first place.
That being said, if you live in the states you either have to convert it to YUV component video (which has to be upscaled) or to a higher resolution RGB (VGA) signal since modern TV's don't know what to do with such a low resolution signal. Of course if you have a CRT that can accept low res YUV signals then it's no problem at all.
Arseen:
Which produces better video.
RGB-scart or RGB converted to VGA.
As European I have both on my TV.
I wanna know which looks better on 47" Full HD TV.
Oh and just bought RGB-scart to HDMI converter (or act5ually 1080P upscaler), haven't just tryed it yet, might give better image or screw it totally.
For the US folk here still using S-video this is best option (or RGB converted to VGA).
zakurowrath:
--- Quote from: Arseen on July 23, 2012, 12:05:54 AM ---Which produces better video.
RGB-scart or RGB converted to VGA.
As European I have both on my TV.
I wanna know which looks better on 47" Full HD TV.
Oh and just bought RGB-scart to HDMI converter (or act5ually 1080P upscaler), haven't just tryed it yet, might give better image or screw it totally.
For the US folk here still using S-video this is best option (or RGB converted to VGA).
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Would you happen to know the make and model number of the TV so I can do a small bit of research on it Arseen?
That's actually kind of hard to say being that I've never used a modern European TV before. The big question is if connected to your RGB SCART input does the TV keep the native low resolution (RGB at 15hz) and display it, or does it upscale it internally then display it.
Using the VGA port, if your TV is capable of 640x480 then that would be a really nice resolution for classic games since it's usually the lowest most modern TV can produce and it's closest to the low native resolution of classic consoles.
Now I have seen a variety of SCART to HDMI upscalers, and usually the picture is adequate. Although the cheaper ones usually soften the picture where as RGB is supposed to be pixel sharp in the first place.
I'd go with RGB SCART since your TV has the input. It's the option with the least processing of the signal.
RGB SCART: Best
RGB VGA: Better
RGB to HDMI: Great
S-Video: Good
Composite: Adequate
RF: Sucks to be you :P
Or you can experiment with all three and see which one you like the best. From a technical standpoint keeping an analogue signal analogue is the best option.
Wish we had it over here in the states, makes me want to import a European TV, but then I have to worry about the whole 50hz PAL vs 60hz NTSC thing. Voltage converters wouldn't be that much of a hassle.
Pain in the ass yes, but anything is better than composite on modern TV's.
Arseen:
I'm at work now so I can't check the exact model but it's 47" LG Full HD TV from few years back.
PAL /NTSC is not a problem with HDTVs as they understand all PAL/NTSC/SECAM signals.