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| Forte:
The N64 was a shot to the foot, the Game Cube was a chainsaw to the shoulder (and we'll just ignore the GBC and Virtual Boy). As far as I'm concerned, the Sony Playstation is the spiritual successor to the Super Nintendo. At release, same controller, but with 4 triggers instead of two. And what's this new concept?...CDs?...Nintendo has lagged behind, and continues, in actually technical innovation, relying on old franchises and gimmicks (WiiMote) to keep it's market share...that's why all the third parties went to Playstation (and later XBox). I mean really...the N64 controller wasn't designed for human hands, the GCN controller wasn't much better (why they insisted on continuing that stupid C Buttons/Stick is beyond me) when ABXY (Square, Circle, Triangle, Cross) are a proven method. And then look at the Wii..it's a NES controller you shake to get it to do what X and Y used to do. I just never bought into it. Of course, I never bought into the Saturn controller either. Why aren't X Y Z the same size, shape, and elevation as A B C? I just can't get used to that. Loved the Dreamcast controller MUCH more. Worst (major) controller of all time was Atari Jaguar. Then N64. Handheld goes to N-Gage and GBC/GBA (don't make ports of Super Nintendo games without an X and Y button, idiots!). At least Nintendo has released a decent controller in the last 15 years in the classic controller for Wii. |
| wiggy:
--- Quote from: mariocaseman on July 20, 2012, 07:21:08 PM ---Please note wiggy, that is your opinion... Certainly not a fact. The N64 was an incredibly successful console. The GameCube.. That was a shot to the foot. --- End quote --- It didn't do nearly as well as the NES or SNES, and was absolutely murdered by its competition, the PS1. No opinion there. |
| satoshi_matrix:
The N64's not a bad system, but it had numerous hurdles it just couldn't overcome. The N64 was delayed for over a year. The PS1 had time to hit the market and so had the Sega Saturn. For many people who just bought a PS1, the N64 was seen as too little too late. Extremely high development costs of cartridges coupled with their limited storage kept third party developers at bay. Although the N64 was fully capable of excellent 2D games, the high development costs were too steep for most developers to even want to bother when the Playstation was a much more lucrative market. Gamers who had grown up with the Ataris or even the NES were now older and many of Nintendo's games no longer carried appeal. I know personally this is how I felt about a good number of N64 games, and why I have little desire to expand my N64 library beyond the 50-ish games I currently own for it, even when I see N64 games for sale cheap. Maybe it's not the case for everyone, but for me, I never liked the N64 analog stick. I found it uncomfortable to use and an N64 controller was the first I had ever managed to break with use. I've since done that only with a Wavebird and an Xbox controller S, but for the most part all my controllers last and stand up to use just fine...but not the N64 trident. I think if you're going to play N64, a Hori Mini 64 or Gamecube to N64 adapter is a must. |
| mariocaseman:
--- Quote from: wiggy on July 20, 2012, 08:45:37 PM --- --- Quote from: mariocaseman on July 20, 2012, 07:21:08 PM ---Please note wiggy, that is your opinion... Certainly not a fact. The N64 was an incredibly successful console. The GameCube.. That was a shot to the foot. --- End quote --- It didn't do nearly as well as the NES or SNES, and was absolutely murdered by its competition, the PS1. No opinion there. --- End quote --- Not at all, Wiggy. Do a little more research on that. N64 was a hot item as soon as it hit shelves and never stopped selling well until the 5-year death period was near. The PSOne did ultimately sell more units, but to say the N64 was murdered is beyond exaggeration. I would argue the Saturn was the loser in the 3-wat battle there, and even that was not a bad system, just horribly supported. |
| wiggy:
Again, not nearly as well as its predecessors, and the PS1 outsold the N64 more than 3 to 1. Use whatever adjective you like, that's a very wide margin. Nintendo lost squaresoft to Sony with the N64 and the likes of Capcom and Konami made very few games for the system. It's not a matter of opinion that the N64 was not entirely successful and that it essentially served to partially or entirely break ties with some of the biggest developers in the industry. To this day the support of the aforementioned developers hasn't even come close to the levels of Nintendo's competitors in the home console market (I make the distinction because the GB/GBA/DS have had a lot of support from third party developers). Not to mention the production costs for the N64 were obscene. Sony was charging something like .10 per disc, which was fully refundable for every copy of a game not sold. N64 carts could cost upwards of $15 if I recall correctly, with no hope of recouping that cost should there be a large stack of unsold copies. Not sure what research you're suggesting I should do? The 'cube, much like the current president, was crippled by its predecessor. The same goes for the Dreamcast. The Saturn put off so many of Sega's most die-hard fans which meant regaining that following with the Dreamcast, even though it was a very well conceived console with excellent third party support, was a long shot at best. |
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