Artist's Corner > DS Case Covers
Universal Nintendo Handhelds Cover Thread
wiggy:
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--- Quote from: GCW on May 10, 2012, 11:01:12 AM ---Yeah actually that's a really old photo (over a year old now!) that we've been meaning to update for some time. We've been working hard to refine the cutting process and DO actually use much heavier paper now.
I also think it's interesting that this was brought up immediately following a post I made containing DS covers for download.
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This is funny as I just watch some of your video's on youtube about you claiming they made the actual covers for there games, which I high doubt.
Also the price they charge is down right stupid, who in the right mind is buying this stuff. I guess there able to cash in on peoples laziness or people are just uninformed. Take these for example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NO-GAMES-New-Game-Cases-Gameboy-Gameboy-Color-GBA-Pokemon-Super-Bundle-/280874134656?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4165672c80
Makes me want to start up my own site and just undercut these guys for the hell of it, I understand it's a service your providing. It seems this so called "service" comes at a premium cost, which to me is a joke.
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That's exactly how I feel.
Materials:
Doing the math, we come up with $7.70 for the cases (let's figure 8.00 to include shipping costs). If he's printing on legal size, then he can easily get 3 covers per sheet. Looks like the cheapest "photo" paper that you can get at ol' Staples to me. So, based on what I can find, it would be about 12 bucks for 100 sheets. That comes out to .04 per cover for the paper. Let's be REALLY generous and say he's using a pricey 7 color inkjet (he's not), so the price of ink per page is .40.
So we're at $8.44 for materials.
Labor:
Open print-ready files, load paper, select 'print'. This would take me about 1 minute, tops. Maybe he's running a Windows ME machine with 512MB of RAM and Photoshop 4. Let's give him about 5 minutes to open each file (there should be 4 total for the Pokemon covers). Five minutes to remember where he left the pack of paper and then load it. Then we'll figure another 5 minutes of spool time for the prints (we'll count this as labor).
I'd spend about 2-3 minutes cutting those 11 covers out, even less if they're all properly aligned on the page so that I could cut all three with just 6 cuts instead of 8, 10, or 12 if they're scattered about the page. Again, I'll be generous and assume he and his wife are cutting them with a pair of old, dull, left-handed scissors (which seems accurate based on the images). Using that method I could see it easily taking about 25 minutes or so to cut them all out. Then we'll allot 5 minutes to squish them all into the DS cases.
So we're at about 1 hour for labor, and that's EXTREMELY generous.
He includes free shipping. Let's give him $7.00 in shipping fees.
I calculate about $10.00 of eBay/paypal fees per sale.
With all of that figured in, he's making about 50 bucks for each one of those sets he sells. Even if we assume that it does indeed take him an hour to produce each of those sets, then he's STILL making a killing. Realistically, it probably takes half that. So, he's making about 100 bucks an hour selling that shit.
I hope I don't see any of my covers pop up on his page. I would absolutely ruin his monopoly on the market with a price point that is entirely unprofitable.
wiggy:
--- Quote from: GCW on May 10, 2012, 02:04:09 PM ---We DO actually make new covers for our cases. No - not all of them. But we do give explicit credit to The Cover Project (including a link) on our home page. We are semi-regular contributers to this site. Lately we've been working on stuff we can't sell (too new) and have been posting it to these forums for anyone to download.
We also regularly send people to these forums when they e-mail us and ask about volume discounts, etc. We tell them that they're better off buying the cases themselves in bulk and printing the covers.
While the price may seem outrageous to you, you are not our target customer for this service. Anyone who has sold on eBay will understand that the fees from eBay, Paypal, and the postal service are quite high. We offer free shipping on all US orders. We believe that the price of our service is fair.
Obviously we are not the only people doing this, we've just been around the longest. With all of the hate we get around here it's a wonder we continue posting any of our new designs at all...
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I understand perfectly. See my previous post. Your prices are absurd.
Nobody's twisting your arm with regards to hosting "your" covers.. If you didn't post your own covers (if they are your own at all), then I'm pretty sure we'd get along just fine.
I can't speak for everyone, but I wouldn't be sad to see you removed from this forum with a healthy dose of IP addy ban.
wiggy:
Excuse me?!
I am not "helping" anyone with anything like that. I would do something like that on my own if I were to do it at all. Where are you getting this entirely fabricated info from?
Arseen:
As interesting as this fight is, this is wromng topic for this.
So please back on topic.
If you want to continue this fight publicly do creat topic for it, or continue via PM.
Thank you. ;)
tiktektak:
I finally got a cart of this game and had a pretty beat up box lying around also so it was time to do a cover!
The oens on our site are not only for the wrong region (in my case) but also lack high quality sources!!!
They desperately need to be updated so if anyone feels to do it please go ahead! We need a high quality US and JP retail cover to go alongside with my newly made PAL version!