Author Topic: SNES List of Games Which Do Not Have Horizontal Retail-Style Covers Yet  (Read 23666 times)

June 28, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
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June 28, 2015, 05:23:58 PM
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**Re-post from the request thread**

Well, endeavouring to not have another Super Bomberman fiasco..........I have attacked this swine with a renewed hunger and defiance!  :-[

So here it is......many thanks to Banisher for the re-scan of the back, as after how much trouble the front was, the back would have ended me I think.  ;D

Hope everyone who has wanted this for so long likes it, and as always, if anything needs changing just let me know.

And before you say anything Arseen,  :P , no I wont be re-capturing the screen shots, they are from a very high quality scan, I have run my filters and stuff over them, I have gone over them with a fine toothed clone stamping comb...........and..........well, no, I wont be playing through a game I dont care about, for a cover I dont need/want.  ;D

If anyone has or wants to get screen shots for covers like these then I will gladly get them all slotted in.

Legend - NTSC - Horizontal Retail



Also, I spotted an issue on Super Batter Up where I obviously had edited one of the text boxes and not noticed that it re-formatted it to looking a bit odd.........not massively noticeable but none the less wrong.

So I took the old link down, sorted it out and re-uploaded =

Super Batter Up - NTSC0U - Horizontal Retail


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June 28, 2015, 07:22:19 PM
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And before you say anything Arseen,  :P , no I wont be re-capturing the screen shots, they are from a very high quality scan, I have run my filters and stuff over them, I have gone over them with a fine toothed clone stamping comb...........and..........well, no, I wont be playing through a game I dont care about, for a cover I dont need/want.  ;D

Mmkei.

As long as you know the flaw. ;D

June 29, 2015, 09:56:19 AM
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And before you say anything Arseen,  :P , no I wont be re-capturing the screen shots, they are from a very high quality scan, I have run my filters and stuff over them, I have gone over them with a fine toothed clone stamping comb...........and..........well, no, I wont be playing through a game I dont care about, for a cover I dont need/want.  ;D

Mmkei.

As long as you know the flaw. ;D

I think we should upload those two covers to the website, so everyone can have it.

June 29, 2015, 10:34:04 AM
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And before you say anything Arseen,  :P , no I wont be re-capturing the screen shots, they are from a very high quality scan, I have run my filters and stuff over them, I have gone over them with a fine toothed clone stamping comb...........and..........well, no, I wont be playing through a game I dont care about, for a cover I dont need/want.  ;D

Mmkei.

As long as you know the flaw. ;D

I think we should upload those two covers to the website, so everyone can have it.

Well, the "only" cleaned up to a high standard but non-direct new screen capture game images might be what would prevent that..........although, I must say, the last 3 Ive done ALL had the screen caps cleaned up and presented in this way, and they were all uploaded.

So we are discovering a bit of that ambiguity in standards here.  ;D

I mean I know and completely agree that we need to uphold/impose a VERY high standard of production here, and certainly cannot ever go back to the way things were before........but there is a big difference between not having a cover available on the site because it requires a lot more attention to detail orientated clean up (dust, marks, scratches, poor lettering, colouring, incorrect images, etc)............and not uploading one because of the one single issue of very high level scan based games images vs new direct screen captures.

Thats just my 2 cents and as I have said, I dont really have the inclination (or feel the need due to the high res .scans I use) to play through a game on an emulator to TRY and re-create the EXACT scenario depicted on the original boxes screen caps.

I mean do you guys REALLY do that? you play through a game on an emulator or whatever, reach the same point in the game, jump in the air, time it so the enemy is also attacking you, execute a kick, make sure they are swinging their sword........all whilst ensuring you have the EXACT same points and life left as the original screen caps??? how many attempts does it take to get that enemy to do what you want? do you have to farm points and purposefully die to make those numbers correct?

I am being facetious of course........but it seems to me that if there is this notion that the screen caps should HAVE to be re-captured, then surely they should also HAVE to be re-capturing the EXACT same scene as the original images no?  ;D
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June 29, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
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To be honest, I think it is good enough and I also think this is the reason of why people do vertical, as it is more free for all and they can use whatever screenshot they can find under good image.

June 29, 2015, 11:40:23 AM
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I think you guys are completely misinterpreting things. 

Arseen would like high quality replacement captures (yes exact) if they are achievable.  (More easily achievable on 8-bit formats, as you can actually move the sprites around in Photoshop) If not, then cleaned ones from a HIGH QUALITY scan are going to be accepted.  No cover has ever been rejected because screen caps were as blurred as they are on the retail box.  However, if they are taken from a poor quality scan, they are likely to be rejected.

Now, can we move on?

June 29, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
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I think you guys are completely misinterpreting things. 

Arseen would like high quality replacement captures (yes exact) if they are achievable.  (More easily achievable on 8-bit formats, as you can actually move the sprites around in Photoshop) If not, then cleaned ones from a HIGH QUALITY scan are going to be accepted.  No cover has ever been rejected because screen caps were as blurred as they are on the retail box.  However, if they are taken from a poor quality scan, they are likely to be rejected.

Now, can we move on?

LOL, sorry man, I wasnt trying to make a big deal of it (I know you get it all the time, including from me when I first started doing these)......but I have seen our man Arseen say many a time that he would not have approved certain covers I have had approved by you, TikeTak and others.......purely based on the screen shots not being re-captures.

As I said, I will only ever NOT do re-captures when I am working from a great high res. scan, and also have managed to do a lot of clean up on them.

So that long post was more directly at Arseen I guess as a question, as he and I have talked extensively (mostly via PM) about the merits of high res. scan based screen caps vs re-captured ones being acceptable.

Again, sorry, was really trying to not come across like I was having a moan.
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June 29, 2015, 01:50:45 PM
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OK, I'll dial down the quality selector tiny bit when looking Horizontals, VERTICALS STILL NEED PERFECT SCREENSHOTS AS THEY CAN BE CUSTOM.

Peace to the boards. ;D

June 29, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
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OK, I'll dial down the quality selector tiny bit when looking Horizontals, VERTICALS STILL NEED PERFECT SCREENSHOTS AS THEY CAN BE CUSTOM.

Peace to the boards. ;D

LOL! yes! peace to the boards indeed!

Thanks man, seriously, I wasnt trying to make a problem here and certainly was not trying to say that you are some Hitler'esque cover swine!

You know I love ya.  :-*
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June 29, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
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OK, I'll dial down the quality selector tiny bit when looking Horizontals, VERTICALS STILL NEED PERFECT SCREENSHOTS AS THEY CAN BE CUSTOM.

Peace to the boards. ;D

LOL! yes! peace to the boards indeed!

Thanks man, seriously, I wasnt trying to make a problem here and certainly was not trying to say that you are some Hitler'esque cover swine!

You know I love ya.  :-*

But, oh I am. 8)

June 29, 2015, 03:49:01 PM
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OK, I'll dial down the quality selector tiny bit when looking Horizontals, VERTICALS STILL NEED PERFECT SCREENSHOTS AS THEY CAN BE CUSTOM.

Peace to the boards. ;D

LOL! yes! peace to the boards indeed!

Thanks man, seriously, I wasnt trying to make a problem here and certainly was not trying to say that you are some Hitler'esque cover swine!

You know I love ya.  :-*

But, oh I am. 8)

Ok, cool..........as long as you recognise it..........and now you have, we can all talk honestly about you FINALLY!  ;D
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June 29, 2015, 06:41:16 PM
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Right........phew, I must say, this was A LOT more work than I realised!  ;D

Before I go on, please know that I PM'd Spiden as soon as I said I would take this cover on as a clean up project, to both make sure he was Ok with that but also to say that I was quite shocked over the issues a cover from him had (so you know I am not saying shit here that I havent said to him myself.  ;D ).

Anywho, just so the admin's can see what I have done here to improve Spiden's version that was ultimately decided as not being up to scratch, here is a list of what I did to it =

1 - Re-coloured, triple filtered and clone stamped every square inch of the front cover.
2 - Filled in un-blackened areas of the spine logo (basically any letter that an enclosed inner part like O's, A's and P's) - as well as filling in a few uncoloured pixels at 400% zoom.
3 - Replaced all Ocean logo's with a sharper version.
4 - Completely re-worked/re-typed all the back text........all legals, info and main game description........mostly because again, every single letter with an enclosed area had not been coloured in to "0,0,0" black but more because a lot of the letter was not great and I would have wanted to completely re-draw over it all to make the colours better/sharper and have less breakage in the lettering.
5 - Filled in missing pure black areas of the back game logo's, as well as a lot of uncoloured pixels at 400% zoom.
6 - Re-coloured, triple filtered and clone stamped all four back game captures (smoothing as much as possible whilst preserving as much detail as possible).

Thats about it I suppose..........yeah, sorry, just wanted to list that so the cover admins could potentially check off (whilst still checking again to make sure of course) things they had issues with on the previous version. Hopefully now it is up to the required standard (it certainly is now at the level of my previously approved covers), so one more off the list perhaps! =

The Addams Family - Pugsley's Scavenger Hunt - NTSC-U - Horizontal Retail



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July 05, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
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July 05, 2015, 12:07:46 PM
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I have some extra time off work next week. So I decided to try to do some covers.

Kendo rage - The front of my box is a bit faded, I'll see what I can do.
Road Riot 4WD - The back of my box is ripped open.
NBA Showdown - box is in good condition
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein - box is in perfect condition
NHL 95 - box is in good condition
Brunswick World: Tournament of Champions
NFL Football

When you got these done, I will knock it off from the list. Thanks.