Author Topic: SNES List of Games Which Do Not Have Horizontal Retail-Style Covers Yet  (Read 23656 times)

February 13, 2015, 11:11:30 PM
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February 14, 2015, 01:07:34 AM
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These are great finds but the resolution is only 72 DPI. On this site, 300 DPI is the preferred resolution. Thank you for sharing these though, they'll make great placeholders until we can get some higher quality scans.

February 14, 2015, 08:43:48 AM
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These are great finds but the resolution is only 72 DPI. On this site, 300 DPI is the preferred resolution. Thank you for sharing these though, they'll make great placeholders until we can get some higher quality scans.
Ah, I didn't know there was some requirement.

I couldn't find Horizontal cover art for the following games on this forum or on the site.

The Addams Family (I found a PAL version cover art)
Cutthroat Island
Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story (I found a PAL version cover art)
Mario's Early years fun with numbers
primal rage
radical psycho machine racing
scooby-doo mystery (dead link on the board)
spider-man
super nes super scope 6
toys
ultimate fighter
waialae country club
world heroes

Some of the ones on your list I believe I have horizontal cover art for.  If I find the files, I will upload them.
Could someone help me find these though?  These aren't on that master list, but I can't find them anywhere.
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February 15, 2015, 11:38:10 AM
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@OhhNoYouNintenDidnt:
Could you tell me which of your posted covers up to now came from high res sources (min. 300dpi)?
I would like to check them for quality as we could need some for the site but only got so much time you know.
Also are those customs or retail (back legal text original, spine like it should be)?

Sure man! I am making them for Banisher for this list of missing covers on the site......which I assume was for eventual upload to the main site.

I have been uploading them through the "Upload a cover" tab as I go but often receive errors when the upload is complete which I was not sure about, some of them may be sitting in your lists for approval now I would hope.

Anyway, to answer your questions =

1 - All of them are 300 DPI and above for sure, just checked them all.......also, to be clear (literally, lol), all of them were made using 600 DPI scans that Banisher sent me.

2 - Of course about the quality check, expect nothing less if they are going up on the main outward facing part of the site......but again, that is/was always what I have in mind when I make/made them, so hopefully with the amount of wrist aching detail I have been cleaning these up with, they should meet your standards hopefully.

3 - ALL of the back text is COMPLETELY legit......cleaned up, whitened (or coloured whatever the original colour was) so they pop out more than the scans I have and generally the back text is what takes me the longest to do as I comb over every single little detail to make sure it is both in line with the retail original and of good quality without colour bleeding or distortion - I use Shenske's template but hardly use the pre-packaged back text with that, as most covers differ from that so much.

4 - The spines are the same as above but the only difference to retail is that I have left the bottom SNES grey logo to ensure display continuity......seems like most people leave that there on retail horizontal covers, so I did, checked with the guys in here and they said fine to do so.

If you want that removed so it is PURE original retail, then let me know and I will go through them all, whip that out and re-upload.

Also, so you dont have to go back through the pages here to find the ones I have done so far......here they are for you =


Took a look at them. Sorry but they won't make it to the site. Just at first glance the fronts and screenshots need a lot more cleaning. There are dirt spots and residue and other stuff everywhere especially on the fronts.
Als most of the fronts and screens could use some more color and sharpness but that is sth I can do prior to uploading. The cleaning I don't have time for sorry.
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February 15, 2015, 02:12:13 PM
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@OhhNoYouNintenDidnt:
Could you tell me which of your posted covers up to now came from high res sources (min. 300dpi)?
I would like to check them for quality as we could need some for the site but only got so much time you know.
Also are those customs or retail (back legal text original, spine like it should be)?

Sure man! I am making them for Banisher for this list of missing covers on the site......which I assume was for eventual upload to the main site.

I have been uploading them through the "Upload a cover" tab as I go but often receive errors when the upload is complete which I was not sure about, some of them may be sitting in your lists for approval now I would hope.

Anyway, to answer your questions =

1 - All of them are 300 DPI and above for sure, just checked them all.......also, to be clear (literally, lol), all of them were made using 600 DPI scans that Banisher sent me.

2 - Of course about the quality check, expect nothing less if they are going up on the main outward facing part of the site......but again, that is/was always what I have in mind when I make/made them, so hopefully with the amount of wrist aching detail I have been cleaning these up with, they should meet your standards hopefully.

3 - ALL of the back text is COMPLETELY legit......cleaned up, whitened (or coloured whatever the original colour was) so they pop out more than the scans I have and generally the back text is what takes me the longest to do as I comb over every single little detail to make sure it is both in line with the retail original and of good quality without colour bleeding or distortion - I use Shenske's template but hardly use the pre-packaged back text with that, as most covers differ from that so much.

4 - The spines are the same as above but the only difference to retail is that I have left the bottom SNES grey logo to ensure display continuity......seems like most people leave that there on retail horizontal covers, so I did, checked with the guys in here and they said fine to do so.

If you want that removed so it is PURE original retail, then let me know and I will go through them all, whip that out and re-upload.

Also, so you dont have to go back through the pages here to find the ones I have done so far......here they are for you =


Took a look at them. Sorry but they won't make it to the site. Just at first glance the fronts and screenshots need a lot more cleaning. There are dirt spots and residue and other stuff everywhere especially on the fronts.
Als most of the fronts and screens could use some more color and sharpness but that is sth I can do prior to uploading. The cleaning I don't have time for sorry.

Hey tiktektak,

Thanks for taking the time to look at them and getting back to me........however, whilst I appreciate what you are saying and judegment, I would just like to check a few things with you if you dont mind purely in the name of me getting better at this.

***Please do not take the below as me arguing or throwing a hissy fit here at your feedback.......I really would just like to know a bit more, especially as I dont want to continue making covers like these if they are essentially not wanted by people because of these quality issues - I didnt come here to make these covers, they are not for me in any way, I only started doing them because Banisher really liked my SFC covers and asked me if I would help out with these, and I really enjoy doing it***

1 - Of course, the main front images are the least cleaned up part of the covers I have made but In my mind, I have only not cleaned or re-coloured areas on those images where it involves shading that I cannot re-create.........solid areas of colour I always endeavour to fill in to get rid of that dot matrix look they have to make those areas more bold and clean looking.

The Incredible Crash Test Dummies cover is a good example of that......where the entire red background, all the yellow and black check side bars, the game logo, and some other elements dotted around the front image were all cleaned and worked hard on to make them pop........but the car and the characters on the front had so much shading on them, there was no way I could re-colour them without COMPLETELY re-drawing them, something I dont have the time, inclination or Photoshop proficiency to do.

Also, not sure whether you looked at the Adventures of Mighty Max one but that cover I ABSOLUTELY re-coloured and cleaned every inch including front, as it was all mostly solid colours without shading, so felt comfortable going for that one.

Did you perhaps ONLY look at the early ones I did like Beauty and the Beast, James Bond Jnr?........as I do know, and it has been noticed and praised by Banisher, that I have improved with my cleaning since then.

2 - Spiden and Banisher have always been very grateful and encouraging of the covers I have made........with Banisher literally requesting me to make them for him (I thought he was "just" a member wanting some covers for his personal collection at first, lol) and subsequently sending me the scans for the covers he needs.........so I guess I thought that if those guys were/are happy with them, and Banisher keeps asking me to make them without anything other than thanks and praise, that I was making them up to a decent standard.

Banisher also included me in his "thanks to the artists" post a page or so back in this thread.........which in all honesty, made me feel really quite proud and happy of the "work" Ive done with these, as being mentioned with those established guys so early in my being here felt really good and encouraging.

3 - I just randomly clicked on and selected a few covers already on the site and I was wondering, for the sake of showing me EXACTLY what it is I am doing and/or not doing (so as to improve)......where the differences are in quality?

To be honest, the Magical Quest one below......the front is clearly the original scanned quality, with that dot matrix look to it, no re-colouring and some imperfections around the edges (especially at the top).

Illusions of Gaia is even worse.......look at the top left area on the front, lots of imperfections, dust?, scratch marks that I cannot imagine leaving in my covers (not saying I might have missed some here and there but I actively look out for them and address them).......no re-colouring whatsoever here again, just straight copy and paste.

Also, on both of the randomly selected covers below, the back screen shots of the game are again quite pixilated and appearing like un-cleaned original scan images.........similar to the ones I get from the 600dpi images I use.

Finally, on both these randomly found covers......areas of the back text or either uncleaned, with imperfections, dulled colours (especially the red boxes on Illusions of Gaia), even missing elements of text where no attempt has been made to sharpen them...........which is something that NEVER happens on mine, as that part takes by the longest for me as I painstakingly re-colour and bold every single letter of the tiny text on the back, making sure they are are solid, clear and bold without flicks, scratches, marks or random dots on them like these two have.

Again, sorry for the essay here..........just really trying to understand where I am going wrong, and so where I need to redouble my efforts, as well as seeing how the two below made the grade when in my mind and eye, they at the very least appear less clear, less clean than the majority of the ones I have made for Banisher.

Many thanks again for your feedback, really hope I can get them to the standard you are looking for so I can fully contribute to the community here.......which is all I wanted to achieve.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?game_id=953 - Magical Quest

http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?cover_id=2844 - Illusions of Gaia
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February 15, 2015, 03:16:44 PM
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I haven't checked your covers, so I can't comment on the actual things tik pointed out, but I would like to say that comparing them to 2 random covers on the site is never going to be the way to go.  Over the years our quality standards have got stricter and stricter - this isn't to be awkward, and I know how it can make new artists to the site frustrated.  These days anything less than perfect won't be accepted.  Unfortunately we can't remove the old sub par covers from the site, which is why checking a lot of existing covers will just cause you more frustration.

With respect, although spiden and banisher are happy with the covers (and lots of other people too I am sure) they aren't admins here, so don't have the trained eye to spot what it is we are looking for.  The fact tik took time to give you the feedback should give you some confidence that he thinks with a little work, they could be soon up to the required standard, as shit covers are usually just deleted without feedback.

I assume you are using Photoshop, so For dust and scratches, practice using the clone stamp tool, and the band aid.  (Band aid only for very small spots).

If you are making scans yourself, make sure to clean the scan bed before you start, and if a glossy cover, a quick wipe with a lint free cloth can make a big difference.

February 15, 2015, 03:48:55 PM
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Actually your Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel cover had a few problems that I had to fix. The black "flooded" areas that it shouldn't have. Like the bottom of the nunchucks on the backside, and the bad guys ear on the basckside as well.

Here is a version of the cover I fixed myself : http://www.mediafire.com/view/cxtrhm3vn4vnklh/Zero%20the%20Kamikaze%20Squirrel.png#

Don't be discourged though. I have to fix and alter most covers before I print them, even the covers hosted on this site. For instance, I am planning on making a brand new cover for
Contra III because the one hosted on this site is of very poor quality.

Continue making covers, you do good work. Just know if you submit a cover, it's going to be an ordeal.





February 15, 2015, 05:12:03 PM
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Thanks guys, really appreciate you adding your thoughts into the mix here............as I said, hopefully I did not come across in that post like I was throwing a hissy fit or pissed off in any way, just wanting to know more about what to do to get them better.

Sheep - Thanks for clarifying all that you did there, I was not aware of the previously lower standards so that clears all that "comparison" stuff up........Tik, feel free to ignore that point and question of mine! lol.

I guess as I am SO new here, there is obviously a lot I do not know, and although I had read a guide in one of the other sub forums about what is expected, I just assumed that if guys like Banisher and Spiden think you are doing a good job and want you to carry on, then the covers are effectively ready and up to the standard of the site in general.

But I get the difference now, its one thing making covers for collectors in the forums who want them but its another having the general site providing perhaps sub-par covers to the myriad of people who would never come near the forums to look for covers.........so we are talking about the reputation of the site as a whole here, and I get that completely in terms of not allowing my current covers to go "live" if they are not up to scratch.

And yes, its is Photoshop I use although I would never profess to be any where near a pro or even a widely experienced Photoshopper, its really only been the last year I have gotten more confident and able with it........evidenced by my never having used the 2 tools you suggested there! so I will start playing with them to see if they can help me improve, thanks!

Spiden - Thank you man for pointing those specific issue out.......I obviously see them now, although I can honesty say that I missed that whilst I was doing it as I would not have deemed it "finished" if I had, especially as it would have been such an easy fix.........so sorry you had to sort that.

But is that it?.......you didnt have issue with the back screen shots? or the generally untouched from scan nature of the front? or are we talking about the difference between you as a collector on the forums, and the admin guys with their much more intense scrutiny as Sheep pointed out is the case? lol.

Can you do me a favour and look at the Mighty Max and also James Bond Jr in particular please? as Mighty Max especially I think is by far my best and I just scanned over James Bond and cannot see anything really wrong with that........just so I can see the kinds of standards we are talking about here, as if I have kind of or almost reached it with those, then I know where I need to set my baseline you know.

Thanks again guys.............next one is gonna blow your balls off!!!  ;D

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February 15, 2015, 05:46:36 PM
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Just had a quick look at mighty max (only on my iPad so couldn't scrutinize properly), and while you have done a great job for the most part - it looks like you've been using the fill tool on the front.  Fill tool generally leaves unsightly jagged edges, and doesn't cope at all well with blended areas, which are quite evident in the blues on your cover.  

Much better to use the clone stamp if possible, and perhaps surface blur filter on selected areas to even out colors, rather than fill.

All the artists have their own little tricks to get things looking smoother.  If you haven't already checked it out, have a look at segamer's Photoshop for noobs thread.  Some great tips in there.

Edit:  looking at it in more detail, you have done a fantastic job with it considering you've only used the basic tools.  I can't wait to see what you can do once you get more photoshop proficient.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 05:58:07 PM by sheep2001 »

February 15, 2015, 06:32:23 PM
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Gotcha Sheep!.......the limitations of filling in colours that way has always bugged me, hence why I shy away from textured images, as obviously not much I can do there with the heavy handed paint bucket! lol. Feel damage I literally just copy the nearest colour and then use a small paint brush to fill it in, then maybe a little smudge tool to soften it but that usually makes it look worse.

Man, I am already using the clone stamp right now and..............its a REVELATION!!!!!! lol, I god damned LOVE IT! and am now annoyed as hell that I considered it too advanced for me.

I have chosen the aptly titled "Home Improvement" for my new and improved, knock you out of your socks, no need for Spiden improvements, satisfy the eagle eyes of cover admins, badass new cover!!!

In the immortal words of Tim Allen from the show this game is licensed (yes, THAT "Home Improvement"! lol).........."Urrrrrrrah!".  ;D
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February 16, 2015, 01:03:29 AM
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February 16, 2015, 02:07:57 AM
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Gotcha Sheep!.......the limitations of filling in colours that way has always bugged me, hence why I shy away from textured images, as obviously not much I can do there with the heavy handed paint bucket! lol. Feel damage I literally just copy the nearest colour and then use a small paint brush to fill it in, then maybe a little smudge tool to soften it but that usually makes it look worse.

Man, I am already using the clone stamp right now and..............its a REVELATION!!!!!! lol, I god damned LOVE IT! and am now annoyed as hell that I considered it too advanced for me.

I have chosen the aptly titled "Home Improvement" for my new and improved, knock you out of your socks, no need for Spiden improvements, satisfy the eagle eyes of cover admins, badass new cover!!!

In the immortal words of Tim Allen from the show this game is licensed (yes, THAT "Home Improvement"! lol).........."Urrrrrrrah!".  ;D

Thank you for the help. I still like your cover. Thanks.

February 16, 2015, 06:44:45 PM
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Thanks B......just you wait for the news ones though!  ;D
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February 17, 2015, 04:08:23 PM
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I didn't make these, I take no credit for them.  I just found them.

These doesn't look that great.

February 21, 2015, 07:14:14 PM
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These doesn't look that great.
Well, I didn't make them like I said... I just found them.  They work for me and I'm sure someone else will appreciate having them.

Does no one have the covers for the ones I listed that allegedly exist?
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