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April 21, 2012, 10:03:39 PM
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...why wouldn't it play tengen games or Castlevania III? It's just a connector.

Ive found some of the newer connectors are not quite right. For example Generation Nex by Messiah uses a modded 72pin connector that looks like the top loaders but is the same as the replacement one i got for my nes. It too does not play tegen gauntlet for example.... nor does it play castlevania 3.

There's you're problem. Generation Nex is just another clone with compatibility problems.. The connector doesn't matter one bit.

Like Scarmullet said, it's the NOAC, not the connector.

So how about CAPCOM eh?  Crazy they aren't doing anything....   ::)
Threads evolve over time, deal with it.


Look who's talking lmao!  :D :D :D :D :D

...what are you talking about?

Where am I saying "get back on topic!" in another thread?
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April 22, 2012, 02:04:29 PM
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...why wouldn't it play tengen games or Castlevania III? It's just a connector.

Ive found some of the newer connectors are not quite right. For example Generation Nex by Messiah uses a modded 72pin connector that looks like the top loaders but is the same as the replacement one i got for my nes. It too does not play tegen gauntlet for example.... nor does it play castlevania 3.

There's you're problem. Generation Nex is just another clone with compatibility problems.. The connector doesn't matter one bit.

Like Scarmullet said, it's the NOAC, not the connector.


I think you are misunderstanding me. the 72 pin connectors that are on the market now are not always compatible with every title in the nes library. If your original nes's one breaks.... you may end up with one that doesnt play everything. The hardware is almost 30 years old right? Makes getting an original 72pin connector that still works a bit challenging. (I think the confusion is i compare my nes to my nex all the time.)

My nes got the blinking red light.... thats the indicator for dead 72pin connector. (some times it means dirty so try cleaning it first... the light means bad connection to 72pin connector). So I bought a new 72pin connector. For most all games it works but like my generation nex, it wont play castlevania 3. Cart plays fine in my toploader.... and when the old nes 72pin worked it played fine there too.
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April 22, 2012, 02:10:45 PM
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...why wouldn't it play tengen games or Castlevania III? It's just a connector.

Ive found some of the newer connectors are not quite right. For example Generation Nex by Messiah uses a modded 72pin connector that looks like the top loaders but is the same as the replacement one i got for my nes. It too does not play tegen gauntlet for example.... nor does it play castlevania 3.

However, the toploader plays all perfectly.... just the connection to your tv is rf and sucky.

If I open it up and drill a few holes and do a bit of work, I can have that sucker connecting AV and have no issues.

It has nothing to do with the connector, its the NOAC and mapper incompatibility.

How is it a nes-on-a-chip incompatability when i am speaking of my original nes and its 72pin connector dien and being replaced with a new 72pin connector.



I replaced the old one in my NES and now it doesnt play castlevania 3. It use to before the old one broke.

April 22, 2012, 03:36:44 PM
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It's a bunch of folded metal and plastic, that's it. There's no reason that Castlevania III shouldn't work. You probably either did something wrong installing it or there's something else wrong with that NES.

The only issue I've had with those replacement connectors is how tight they are and how for some reason (probably related to the tightness) they tend to work better if you leave the game "up".
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April 22, 2012, 05:09:37 PM
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It's a bunch of folded metal and plastic, that's it. There's no reason that Castlevania III shouldn't work. You probably either did something wrong installing it or there's something else wrong with that NES.

The only issue I've had with those replacement connectors is how tight they are and how for some reason (probably related to the tightness) they tend to work better if you leave the game "up".

I highly doubt it. Its very simply slide one off and slide the other on. The nes played CV3 before and now it doesnt so its not the nes... its the 72 pin connector as thats the only thing that changed.

April 22, 2012, 05:17:08 PM
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All this talk and I managed to find an Xbox copy of Anniversary Collection for $3.

I'm gonna do a comparison of the two versions one day.

April 22, 2012, 05:45:24 PM
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It's a bunch of folded metal and plastic, that's it. There's no reason that Castlevania III shouldn't work. You probably either did something wrong installing it or there's something else wrong with that NES.

The only issue I've had with those replacement connectors is how tight they are and how for some reason (probably related to the tightness) they tend to work better if you leave the game "up".

I highly doubt it. Its very simply slide one off and slide the other on. The nes played CV3 before and now it doesnt so its not the nes... its the 72 pin connector as thats the only thing that changed.

Pull the new pin connector, blow on it, reinstall :P

April 22, 2012, 11:26:46 PM
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Yeah that connector being the problem is outright baffling. I have never heard of it causing any compatibility issues. There's gotta be something else going on. A connector is about as passive a component as you can get, so long as everything's connecting right, there's no reason it shouldn't work.

Do what wiggy said, try re-seating it.

Do other games give you problems on the new connector?

April 22, 2012, 11:42:00 PM
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Yeah that connector being the problem is outright baffling. I have never heard of it causing any compatibility issues. There's gotta be something else going on. A connector is about as passive a component as you can get, so long as everything's connecting right, there's no reason it shouldn't work.

Do what wiggy said, try re-seating it.

Do other games give you problems on the new connector?

so far just it a and tengen gauntlet. Both of which worked before in the nes..... both of which work in my top loader.... and both of which dont work in my generation nex.

April 23, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
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Could the connector be missing pins or have broken ones or something? Some kinda manufacturing defect where certain pins aren't making contact like they should?

That's about the only thing I can think of that'd cause the connector itself to not work with certain games.

April 23, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
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Could the connector be missing pins or have broken ones or something? Some kinda manufacturing defect where certain pins aren't making contact like they should?

That's about the only thing I can think of that'd cause the connector itself to not work with certain games.

I highly doubt it because that would cause more havok than just the same two games that wont play in my generation nex.

The games are good as the work in both the top loader and the nes before the 72 pin finally crapped out. They didnt work in the generation nex but i always assumed it was the noac that was the issue. Now having purchased a brand new 72 pin and them no longer working in the nes, I am lead to believe the newer 72 pin connectors (like the one found in the generation nex) are not fully compatible with all carts.

Another funny quirk with the nex is that it has a famicom port. I have a nes to famicom converter, to allow US nes games on a Japanese system. When i plug tegen guantlet into that and into the famicom port it works. Castlevania 3 is still a bit flaky but it mostly plays as well.

April 23, 2012, 08:36:49 AM
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Seriously, do what I said, save for the blowjob   Check the new connector to make sure it's clean and free of debris and the same of the connector on the NES board.

April 23, 2012, 09:26:02 AM
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Owning a broken-ass NES, go for the new pin connector. If you DO have extra money then by all means go for the official toploader.

April 23, 2012, 09:42:24 AM
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^^^ A lot of folks like the toaster for its "superior" audio. 

Personally, the quality of the A/V output on the NES is of little to no concern.  The games are ugly and the sound is crude.  I can't really imagine there being enough of a difference to enhance my gameplay experience.  If Mario jumps and Link swings his sword, then I'm a happy camper ;D

April 23, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
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Play the Atari 2600 for a week non-stop and then go back to the NES. You'll be amazed by how nice it looks and sounds.

Anyhow... the only thing that can go wrong with a connector really is that connections aren't being made. It's either dirty or the contacts are really effed up.

Question: ShaggyB,  when you installed the new connector, did you find that it gripped the games really tightly, or that you had to leave games in the "up" position for them to work?
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