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GAME FOR ADVANCE?
Beastman1975:
dont know if they still allow it but at one time gamestop allowed employees to sign out games to try ( new or used ) so chances are it has been played if its a popular title
FFXIK:
--- Quote from: Beastman1975 on April 02, 2012, 03:19:43 AM ---dont know if they still allow it but at one time gamestop allowed employees to sign out games to try ( new or used ) so chances are it has been played if its a popular title
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I don't think they have stopped that practice
AppleQueso:
^Last I heard they stopped allowing that for new games a long time ago.
FFXIK:
--- Quote from: AppleQueso on April 02, 2012, 03:33:35 AM ---^Last I heard they stopped allowing that for new games a long time ago.
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Thank god. Although I do still hear of it happening at the Gamestop that is nearest to me. Could just be rumors though.
wiggy:
--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 02, 2012, 02:27:43 AM ---Before you send it back, open up the casing and drill a small hole through the game board. Close it back up so if he does resell it, he'll have to deal with another return on it as well.
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This is known as fraud.
--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM ---Except that it's not. eBay policy cannot override FEDERAL LAW. Period. That's not how the world works.
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--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM ---Because I currently have a 100% record of getting 100% of my money back and keeping the counterfeit items - (although two of which I destroyed, one lot (three games) I UPS'd to Nintendo upon their request - as I didn't want to keep them anyway).
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Seems like you've already solved this problem.
As you've already discovered, it is NOT a federal offense to ship these items via carries such as UPS/FedEx, and that's what paypal/ebay may tell the buyer to do.
Ease up on the whole "it's federal law" bit. We're not talking about shipping hundreds of bootlegs to a retailer. Nobody cares about a single bootleg GBA game being shipped. There isn't a federal prosecutor or judge that would even look at a case this small. When it comes to the law, there is no "That's not how the world works". It's just not that black and white.
--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM ---I'm suggesting that you call them and tell them that any future debits from PayPal are not authorized. Big difference.
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1st off, you cannot de-authorize your PP account without actually talking to paypal. Again, you've signed an agreement with them. It's very unlikely that your bank or CC company will block transactions from a specific vendor. They will instruct you to close your account and open a new one if it's a big concern. Even then, PP will pursue you for the money. They are relentless fucks, even with an amount as pithy as 15 bucks.
The "big difference" is that any transfers which may take place regarding this transaction aren't going to be considered "future transactions", since the transaction itself has already taken place. The dispute over said transaction is what the buyer is what your attempting to circumvent. Any de-authorization of future transactions isn't going to provide any legal leverage for the buyer, nor will it aid in blocking paypal from fetching whatever funds you may win back in a chargeback.
--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM ---And, again, as for sending the game back - no one can make breaking FEDERAL LAW a part of any agreement. Ever. Period. If they do, tell them you want it in writing. See how quickly they back off.
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"See how quickly they back off" and totally deny your claim is more like it.
--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM ---I tell y'all what. I've successfully filed against three different eBay sellers for counterfeit items using the above methods (though I've never had the PayPal problems with the chargeback).
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Congrats to you on winning 3 fraud dispute chargebacks. That's not the norm when it comes to such things, but rather the exception. Keep in mind that both Mastercard and Visa have recently re-written their fraud chargeback policies. Filing 2 or more in a given time frame puts you under the microscope. Just something to keep in mind.
--- Quote from: UncleBob on April 01, 2012, 11:34:07 PM ---...He's gotten several feedbacks saying what he's selling is counterfeit.
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You're exaggerating. He has one, and it's not even negative.
--- Quote ---I believe its a fake game, but the description says 'copy' so oh well it works
Pokemon Emerald Version (Nintendo Game Boy Advance, 2005) GBA Classic (#120885776982)
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I'm not trying to completely discredit your methods, Bob. I just feel the buyer should be aware that such aggressive tactics aren't necessarily the best route for everyone to take. You obviously have VERY strong feelings about bootleg games, and that obviously affects your choices regarding the resolution of a situations like these (as evidenced by you insistence on either destroying or reporting the items in question and your assertion that the chargebacks "aren't for the money".)