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March 29, 2012, 11:21:27 PM
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Just a possibility, but maybe your steel wool scratched the contacts too deeply.

March 30, 2012, 05:29:51 AM
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It doesn't scratch them at all. 

March 30, 2012, 07:11:40 AM
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Are you sure about that? I'm only asking because even the best-kept objects will decay over time, and electronic contacts have been especially susceptible to this. Minor scratching doesn't usually cause a problem, but when you mentioned steel wool, I was a little shocked.

March 30, 2012, 08:25:16 AM
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1000% sure.  I know materials very well, whether they be plastics, metals, composites, etc.  It's a big part of what I do.

Hang tight, I just gave some serious love to a Phalanx cart that was pretty ugly, I'll post pics.

March 30, 2012, 08:55:48 AM
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The goal isn't to polish the terminals.  The goals are removing grease/dirt/debris and oxidization.  The steel wool is excellent for removing any grease and other deposits left behind as well as the oxidization.  


This cart looked like it took a Pepsi bath at some point in its life.  It didn't even want to pop apart.  Had a nice bead of Pepsi glue all around the edge to keep it sealed nice and tight.

Ick.






Scuffed label.



Yup, I even have a method for polishing the labels.










You'd be hard pressed to find someone as meticulous and OCD about this sort of thing as I am.  I've tried many, MANY cleaning methods over the last 2 decades.  Steel wool is the only thing that does exactly what I need it to do without doing anything that I DON'T want it to do such as polish, scuff or scratch, or otherwise erode the terminals.
« Last Edit: March 30, 2012, 09:00:40 AM by wiggy »

March 30, 2012, 09:07:02 AM
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ya gotta share that label polishing trick

March 30, 2012, 09:22:40 AM
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wiggy,

Do you have any (do-it-yourself) tips for cleaning the actual console ports?  I have replaced a NES 72-pin before, but I'm talking about just cleaning the port, such as for a super nintendo or N64?  You always seem to know what you're talking about, so I'm curious if you have a method for this.

Thanks!

March 30, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
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ya gotta share that label polishing trick

It's actually not as involved as I make it sound.  The labels have a thin plastic film layer on the surface to help protect the image.  With that in mind, and very fine polish meant for plastics coupled with a soft microfiber towel and some gentle polishing is all that it takes.  This is what I use.



I just use my index finger inside the towel and rub in circular motions while applying almost no pressure.  That layer is thin, and you obviously don't want to cut through it.  I'd say rub for about 20 seconds, wipe off the excess and give it a quick buff with a dry spot on the towel then repeat if necessary ;)

wiggy,

Do you have any (do-it-yourself) tips for cleaning the actual console ports?  I have replaced a NES 72-pin before, but I'm talking about just cleaning the port, such as for a super nintendo or N64?  You always seem to know what you're talking about, so I'm curious if you have a method for this.

Thanks!

Cardboard/Fiberboard.  Not the corrugated stuff, but heavy fiberboard of almost any composition.  Cut it into strips that'll fit into the cart port and use 'em like any cleaning kit (push into port, then remove, repeat a couple of dozens times).  I've used scraps of illustration board for a long time just because it's something that I use fairly often for its intended purpose and it works great, but it's pricey and I wouldn't buy a sheet just to clean consoles.  I imagine you could use a cereal box, tissue box, etc.  Just keep folding it over until it's thick enough to make contact with both rows of connectors but not so thick that it bends them excessively.  If you use white board, you'll get a really good view of what you're removing from the pins ;)

It's a LOT easier if you can take the console apart.  It's not super important, but it just makes it easier to work on since you're not fighting the doors and whatnot.
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March 30, 2012, 02:19:24 PM
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Thanks for the tips!  You've given a lot of helpful advice in this thread and it is much appreciated!

March 30, 2012, 07:53:08 PM
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I usually take a game bit and open my carts up.  I just use a jewelry polishing cloth to buff the contacts.  It has worked very well for me.



March 30, 2012, 11:39:57 PM
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It could be a number of things since cartridges have numerous parts in them. Most likely it's the capacitor that regulates the voltage to one of the circuits. Oddly enough, the way I get my stubborn N64 carts to start up, is the old fashioned blow into the slot, then here's the magic, I yell "work" into the cart and sure enough, it fires right up. Maybe the vibration from my voice does something to the board but it has never failed me to this day.  Now it's not an over the top rage yell, but it's loud enough to make people go wtf  :P

Well, I took it apart for shits and giggles.  There's only one cap in there and it's looking just fine.

Damned thing seriously looks brand new.  Pissed me off  >:(

March 31, 2012, 08:14:05 AM
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Quote from: wiggy

I've cracked open a few games in the last few months that have had a serious amount of corrosion on them, and the Brasso worked wonders. It just takes a little more scrubbing, when you're dealing with 20 years worth of buildup. I don't have an NES yet, but all my SNES and N64 games have been cleaned the same way, and none have busted yet.

March 31, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
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I'm not saying that Brasso won't work, I personally just prefer the steel wool.  I was just trying to prove that my method is not at all detrimental the health of the contacts.

Also, here's a SNES that I picked up along with that copy of Phalanx.





Good as new  ;D

March 31, 2012, 01:56:24 PM
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That's a notable amount of dirt from the system. Thankfully, mine was refurbished by an online shop, and I haven't had problems yet. :)

March 31, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
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Indeed it was!  You gotta figure, these things are 20 years old now, and I bet the vast majority were never cleaned in any way, shape, or form. The carts actually felt sticky when I put them in to this guy before the cleaning. Yuck.

Runs like a champ now. Tried about 10 games last night. Even tossed in Biometal so I could hear the awesome 2Unlimited soundtrack. Man, I'd forgotten how terrible that early 90's dance music is. I think I'll play my own music the next time I wanna spend some time with that one LOL!