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March 19, 2012, 09:45:51 PM
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akuma632

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I have run in to a small issue with having so many retro game systems plugged in to my TV, I don't have as many AV inputs as I need. I was looking online for a good AV selector for my cables but I have not found a decent one yet. So I was wondering if there was any people would suggest to pick up?  ???
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March 19, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
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Radio Shack Switch Box: Model 15-1985  -- I use two of these, they are auto-sensing so all you do is turn on your console and it automatically knows which one you have on.  No need to constantly press buttons  ;D  You can plug 5 composite consoles into it!

March 19, 2012, 11:42:59 PM
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how many consoles do you want hooked up at one time?
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March 20, 2012, 05:25:23 AM
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Radio Shack Switch Box: Model 15-1985  -- I use two of these, they are auto-sensing so all you do is turn on your console and it automatically knows which one you have on.  No need to constantly press buttons  ;D  You can plug 5 composite consoles into it!
These things can give you some video issues, ghosting etc. I had one and had problems like that.

You could always daisy chain regular 4 input switchboxes.

March 20, 2012, 07:35:24 AM
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I solved this problem by getting some nice quality cables and couplers for the main inputs to my tv. Then cleanly leading towards my console rack. Whenever i feel the need to play 1team of consoles i just grab the cable/coupler combo, plug in and play.

This way you get no video distortion from those little boxes. Except hdmi i have a 3-1splitter for that.
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March 20, 2012, 12:46:41 PM
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March 20, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
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March 20, 2012, 04:10:18 PM
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it would be nice but i can live without it. i dont want to pay the prices to get most of my systems moded for s-video, nor would i want them to be moded.
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March 20, 2012, 08:44:10 PM
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One trick I've learned - if you have a component and a composite device, and you have a switch box that lets you hook up either a component or composite device into one switch, get the RCA Y cables for the audio and put both devices onto one button.

I'm sure I lose some video quality in my set up, but it works very well.  Except that my wife doesn't like it because she can't figure any of it out. :D
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March 20, 2012, 09:03:30 PM
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Here's what not to pick.



These 2 I used to use.
The one on the left would be good if the switches didn't break after a couple of presses.
The one on the right got the 2 stars because 1. It does its job 2.S-video. Other than that...absolute crap. Kills colors and creates some notable horizontal feedbackish lines.
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March 20, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
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it would be nice but i can live without it. i dont want to pay the prices to get most of my systems moded for s-video, nor would i want them to be moded.
the vast majority of systems have s-video without modding required

March 20, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
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it would be nice but i can live without it. i dont want to pay the prices to get most of my systems moded for s-video, nor would i want them to be moded.
the vast majority of systems have s-video without modding required

While true, are there a lot of systems that have S-Video without a better, more reasonable alternative?

Thinking Nintendo-wise, neither the NES or Top Loader support S-Video.  The SNES does, but the SNES-mini does not.  The N64 does.  The Game Cube does, but the Gen1 versions also support component.  Wii has component... is there an s-video cable for the Wii?  Basically 2/5 generations of Nintendo systems support S-Video and nothing better... what do the other systems look like?
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March 20, 2012, 11:18:44 PM
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Gamecube component requires a cable that costs nearly $70 used. If you're really willing to throw down that sort of cash for video quality, you shouldn't have a problem with modding where possible.

Anyhow uh...

Genesis and Master System don't support S-Video without modding, Saturn supports s-video fine. Dreamcast supports s-video, but from what I've gathered finding a cable that's actually wired up correctly is kind of a pain. You can just use VGA with Dreamcast anyhow.

Playstation 1, 2, and 3 all support s-video, 2 can use component, 3 can use HDMI.

Xbox and Xbox 360 both support s-video I think, but either can use component anyway.

The point is, you can use s-video for the majority of these, whether there's a better quality alternative for many of them is kind of pointless because I never claimed otherwise.

March 20, 2012, 11:30:14 PM
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it would be nice but i can live without it. i dont want to pay the prices to get most of my systems moded for s-video, nor would i want them to be moded.
the vast majority of systems have s-video without modding required

While true, are there a lot of systems that have S-Video without a better, more reasonable alternative?

Thinking Nintendo-wise, neither the NES or Top Loader support S-Video.  The SNES does, but the SNES-mini does not.  The N64 does.  The Game Cube does, but the Gen1 versions also support component.  Wii has component... is there an s-video cable for the Wii?  Basically 2/5 generations of Nintendo systems support S-Video and nothing better... what do the other systems look like?

Well, there's always RGB which is much better than S-Video. NES sadly you have to do a lot of modification to get it to do RGB. SNES is RGB native, SNES Mini is a simple RGB mod, N64 early versions are simple RGB, and most Gamecubes except the last revision are either component NTSC (very expensive cable) or I believe PAL has RGB out.

Genesis can't do component natively, but since it's RGB native, you can use a SCART RGB to YUV for component.

Master System, Jaguar, Saturn, PS1 all RGB native.

PS2 is either component or RGB, you have the option in the menu on which you want to output.

Dreamcast is VGA and stunning on both a VGA CRT and modern LCDs

Xbox is Component native.

PS3,360 are component native with HDMI and can run S-Video as well.

Wii is component native and can run S-Video.

Granted RGB costs abit more with cables and transcoders but if you have a CRT with an RGB, VGA or low res YUV input it's worth it.

Ask for S-Video, it's more suited for non RGB consoles like an Atari 7800 which I would rather modify than an original 2600. Granted if you have S-Video it's much better than composite but if you're gonna go through the trouble of getting cables for all the consoles might as well go with the best picture for each system RGB.

Of course, there's always good oh composite that's still better than RF, as long as you have a good POWERED switch box so you don't lose any signal. The one I used for years before I upgraded everything to RGB was this one:

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-CRF940-Modulator-Gold-Plated-Connectors/dp/B00008X5DD/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1332304753&sr=8-10

It keeps the composite signal nice and bright and even outputs a nice RF signal. S-Video however it kind of sucks on that particular one.

If you want everything to be simple, run either composite or S-video on most everything. If you want to spend the time and money for the best picture with only a few mods here and there, then RGB and component are your best choices.

For a CRT, Composite, S-Video and RGB will be your choices since CRT's can display all of them rather well.

For modern LCD's LED's Plasma, especially for older game systems, RGB is a must, S-video is a good second, but RGB will yield the best picture. Of course for modern game systems HDMI or component. Composite looks horrible on modern TV's.

Otherwise, daisychain some RF switchboxes, which will look horrible but it's the simplest and cheapest way to hook up multiple consoles.
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March 21, 2012, 12:18:07 AM
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Gamecube component requires a cable that costs nearly $70 used. If you're really willing to throw down that sort of cash for video quality, you shouldn't have a problem with modding where possible.

Expensive, true... but if you were speedy, you would have gotten them during the brief period GameStop was selling them for $5 each and actually had them in stock.  That's how I got four of my five sets. :D

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The point is, you can use s-video for the majority of these, whether there's a better quality alternative for many of them is kind of pointless because I never claimed otherwise.

I didn't mean to imply that you had, I was just saying if you're worried about getting the best video quality, there's not a lot going for s-video.
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