Author Topic: Need Some Help With Sega Genesis Picture Quality  (Read 432 times)

February 27, 2012, 10:38:28 PM
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Almost positive the HD Box Pro offers aspect ratio selection and a whole lot of other settings, for $50 it's not bad at all. Of course you'll need a SCART to YUV transcoder as well and there's another $50 plus whatever cabling you need.

I just use a SCART to YUV transcoder at the moment while i'm saving up for a XRGB Mini, fortunately my TV has no issue with the low res signal (aside from treating it as 480i, resulting in a very minor "shimmer" to the picture). Just buy a cheap CRT and save up some cash for a decent scaler like the Edge or the XRGB Mini, the Edge is the less complicated option for sure.

So right there he is already up to at least $100, then a bunch of crazy cables...  His choice, but I'd wait for the EDGE.  It helps ALL consoles by the way, even Wii, and PS3.  Also component consoles like PS2 and GameCube.

why would you run a PS3 through an upscaler? its native HD.

I'll wait for the edge to drop in price, till then.....cheaper alternatives shall be needed.

The EDGE has dropped, it was $700...  and you would run the PS3 for a few reasons.  #1 - to have all your consoles plugged into a single unit (the edge) thus having one cord (an hdmi cable) going in your TV.  #2 - The edge puts out up to 1080p, PS3 only does 720p.  #3 - A few HDTVs do give a lag problem EVEN with the PS3, the edge eliminates this problem.

February 27, 2012, 11:33:15 PM
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Yeah, that's the plan.  I've been reading up here and there about upscalers and such.  The Edge is way out of my price range for now, but I'll be trying to sock away some funds each month to save for one as I fully plan on adding some additional vintage consoles in the future.  For now, I'm just gonna hunt down a decent CRT TV, that should last mea a year or two before I can afford the upscaler. 

I know it's a long shot, but does anyone know any online sites that still sell new CRT TVs in the 13"-19" range at not too crazy of a price?
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February 27, 2012, 11:45:17 PM
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Almost positive the HD Box Pro offers aspect ratio selection and a whole lot of other settings, for $50 it's not bad at all. Of course you'll need a SCART to YUV transcoder as well and there's another $50 plus whatever cabling you need.

I just use a SCART to YUV transcoder at the moment while i'm saving up for a XRGB Mini, fortunately my TV has no issue with the low res signal (aside from treating it as 480i, resulting in a very minor "shimmer" to the picture). Just buy a cheap CRT and save up some cash for a decent scaler like the Edge or the XRGB Mini, the Edge is the less complicated option for sure.

So right there he is already up to at least $100, then a bunch of crazy cables...  His choice, but I'd wait for the EDGE.  It helps ALL consoles by the way, even Wii, and PS3.  Also component consoles like PS2 and GameCube.

Haha I agreed with you man!

February 27, 2012, 11:47:00 PM
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Yeah, that's the plan.  I've been reading up here and there about upscalers and such.  The Edge is way out of my price range for now, but I'll be trying to sock away some funds each month to save for one as I fully plan on adding some additional vintage consoles in the future.  For now, I'm just gonna hunt down a decent CRT TV, that should last mea a year or two before I can afford the upscaler.  

I know it's a long shot, but does anyone know any online sites that still sell new CRT TVs in the 13"-19" range at not too crazy of a price?
Nope.  And they usually won't ship, you'll have to go pick it up.  I don't know where you live but gas is $3.85 a gallon here and the TV is going to cost you money too.  Just hold off dude, the more wasted shit you buy like CRT TVs and scart cables, the longer it will take you to save for an EDGE.

February 28, 2012, 02:34:10 AM
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#2 - The edge puts out up to 1080p, PS3 only does 720p.

Bullshit. There are several Ps3 games that go up to 1080p, and the ps3 outputs 1080p just fine when in the menus or watching blu rays.

My Genesis via that scart to component transcoder looks quite nice on my HDTV. Probably a bit better than my SNES even, very crisp. No issues whatsoever on my TV with a 240p signal. Besides, those scart cables and the transcoder could be used in conjunction later with a DVDO Edge to get an even nicer image. Hardly a waste in the long run.

If you want a CRT, hit up garage sales or pawn shops. $20-50 should get you something pretty nice and they'll probably even be willing to knock the price down for you. I wouldn't even bother trying to find a new CRT, especially if your plan is to replace it down the road.
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February 28, 2012, 09:16:54 AM
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#2 - The edge puts out up to 1080p, PS3 only does 720p.

Bullshit. There are several Ps3 games that go up to 1080p, and the ps3 outputs 1080p just fine when in the menus or watching blu rays.

My Genesis via that scart to component transcoder looks quite nice on my HDTV. Probably a bit better than my SNES even, very crisp. No issues whatsoever on my TV with a 240p signal. Besides, those scart cables and the transcoder could be used in conjunction later with a DVDO Edge to get an even nicer image. Hardly a waste in the long run.

If you want a CRT, hit up garage sales or pawn shops. $20-50 should get you something pretty nice and they'll probably even be willing to knock the price down for you. I wouldn't even bother trying to find a new CRT, especially if your plan is to replace it down the road.

I don't know a whole lot about the technical reasons why, but I do know that my PS3 looks amazing on the new TV.

I do wish I had the funds in the near future to spend on getting a really nice upscaler or scart cable and transcoder, but I just don't make enough for that.  Most of what I do make goes to help out either my Brother or my parents (which frankly, is a worthier cause than my playing video games, lol).  Plus, with my Brother's wedding coming up in two months, the budget is already pretty thin.  I figured I could spend about $50 in the next few months in order to get the Genny up and running nice again, so I was hoping it would be a nice easy one or two cable fix in that price range.  Doesn't seem like that's the case when it comes to my particular TV (from what I hear, some LCD TVs have no issues playing vintage systems with standard cables).  I managed to stumble on a really nice cabinet for free and from the looks of it, I can get a smaller sized TV pretty reasonably priced right in my general area (ie not needing to drive far to pick it up).  Got some errands to run later this week, so I'll hit up some pawn shops and garage sales, see if I can't find me a nice set.  That'll suffice nicely until my DVDO Edge/Vintage system fund grows large enough for at least a scart cable and transcoder.  Might get that then or might just keep saving for the edge.  We'll see when the time comes.
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