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September 14, 2012, 10:42:19 PM
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Monster cable stuff is way overpriced, but 13 bucks isn't terrible.  Might wanna try a local Gamestop or something though.

September 14, 2012, 10:50:02 PM
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Monster cable stuff is way overpriced, but 13 bucks isn't terrible.  Might wanna try a local Gamestop or something though.

no Gamestop in Colombia U_U neither Game  or Walmart or toys R us

September 15, 2012, 08:15:16 AM
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so whats the best alternative to play on your gamecube with a hdtv

I'm gonna say this only because it wasn't said.  I believe the best option might actually be to use a Wii with component cables.  You can play everything (I believe) except for the Game Boy Player.

September 15, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
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I'm gonna say this only because it wasn't said.  I believe the best option might actually be to use a Wii with component cables.  You can play everything (I believe) except for the Game Boy Player.

To go that route the person has to note that new "family edition" Wii's DO NOT play gamecube games :(

The way to go is to get a used wii that still has GC compatibility.
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September 15, 2012, 09:37:30 AM
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I'm gonna say this only because it wasn't said.  I believe the best option might actually be to use a Wii with component cables.  You can play everything (I believe) except for the Game Boy Player.

To go that route the person has to note that new "family edition" Wii's DO NOT play gamecube games :(

The way to go is to get a used wii that still has GC compatibility.

Yeah you can get them fairly cheap nowadays.  And anyone who gets the family edition blue wiis is a chump.

September 15, 2012, 02:56:52 PM
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Allegedly even the new black wii that's bundled with New Super Mario Bros. can't play GameCube games either. Looks like it's becoming more and more worth it to get my launch Wii repaired...
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September 15, 2012, 03:13:08 PM
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Allegedly even the new black wii that's bundled with New Super Mario Bros. can't play GameCube games either. Looks like it's becoming more and more worth it to get my launch Wii repaired...

All new wii's are like that...From what I noticed you can actually tell which is the one that doesn't have gc compatibility just by the packaging.  The new wii's without gc support are sitting horizontally on the front of the box as oppossed to the gc compatible ones that sit on their stand vertically.  Although every where i've been to with new Wii's, I have yet to find a Wii that shows it vertically on the stand
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September 15, 2012, 04:32:38 PM
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hey, talking about this component thing, i noticed some years ago that some sound effects were missing on my snes games. for example super mario world. when i get the cape it makes a 3 tone effects while originally i remember it was a 6 tone sound effect. last week i got this game back and played it and noticed the same thing again, so i decided instead of using the RCA's i used the coaxial, and now the sound effects are back. is my snes wrong or do games play better on coaxial? the same with my NES, the audio is low on the games and later the volume starts to go all the way up while using RCA, but when using coaxial everything works normal.
at last, i have a copy of star fox assault that i bought used on gamestop. the first minutes of the game have a cutscene where everyone talks. however, i cant hear the dialoge, just the background music. is my game broken? did i mess up something? is it because i play my game on the wii? who knows, maybe i have a weird collectors item (that i would gladly sell) haha

September 15, 2012, 09:27:54 PM
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hey, talking about this component thing, i noticed some years ago that some sound effects were missing on my snes games. for example super mario world. when i get the cape it makes a 3 tone effects while originally i remember it was a 6 tone sound effect. last week i got this game back and played it and noticed the same thing again, so i decided instead of using the RCA's i used the coaxial, and now the sound effects are back. is my snes wrong or do games play better on coaxial? the same with my NES, the audio is low on the games and later the volume starts to go all the way up while using RCA, but when using coaxial everything works normal.
at last, i have a copy of star fox assault that i bought used on gamestop. the first minutes of the game have a cutscene where everyone talks. however, i cant hear the dialoge, just the background music. is my game broken? did i mess up something? is it because i play my game on the wii? who knows, maybe i have a weird collectors item (that i would gladly sell) haha

It may be your TV. Coaxial on all classic consoles is in Mono only meaning if the console is in Stereo like the SNES all the sound channels get combined into one channel on the Coax connection. However that doesn't explain the NES since it's in Mono as well.

And I bet years ago if you played it on a different TV, it most likely was a one speaker (Mono) TV since Stereo wasn't the standard till the late 80's early 90's. Even if it was a Stereo TV, Mono comes through as a louder signal and on a Stereo TV it's two times louder since it's two speakers. Also TV's back then had better speakers as well.

Composite video (Yellow) is actually a step up from coax since it separates the audio and video and puts them on individual wires.

Ask for playing StarFox on the Wii, the Wii is emulating the game so sound can be screwed up since it's not 100% perfect emulation.

I still say it's your TV.
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September 15, 2012, 11:54:55 PM
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thanks. my tv is kinda old, but not that much. maybe from 2001. i still have it because i like the size, small plasma tv's suck, i hate them, specially for gaming. big lcd tvs are ok,  but not for retro gaming

September 16, 2012, 05:05:41 AM
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The key to telling the new no-GC Wiis from the old backwards compatible Wiis is the writing on the front of the system.

Because the old Wiis were designed to be placed vertically, all the writing is aligned appropriately. The word Wii is a the bottom, Power and Reset are below their respective buttons, and Eject is above its button. If you find these in the box (not likely at this point) they should picture the Wii standing vertically (my launch Wii box only depicts this on one side, while the other side shows only a hand holding the sleeveless Wii Remote).

The newer Wiis do not even come with a stand, so all the writing is designed for the horizontal orientation. Power, Reset, and Eject are above their buttons, while "Wii" has been moved to the left of the reset button.

At this point, the backwards compatible Wii has been out of production for quite a long time. Unless you happen upon a store that for some reason has a back stock of the things from at least last year, you will not find these new.

The vetical/horizontal thing is the key thing to look for when shopping for a used Wii.

And yes, a used, vertical-style Wii and component cables is probably the best way to go for Gamecube games, only lacking GBPlayer support... And with some software modding you can put GBA (and other) emulators onto one fairly easily, anyway.

September 16, 2012, 09:43:59 AM
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my wii is the older version, the one which is retrocompatible, not like the new cheap one that shouldn't exist

September 16, 2012, 11:38:38 AM
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I have 4 Wii's, as i have 3 holiday houses that i rent out, and have furnished each with a Wii.  I bought the blue Mario at the London Olympic pack for the newest house which we did up last winter, and was suprised they had done away with the GCN ports - didn't even occur to me that they had removed compatibility altogether (i guess it's obvious now i think about it).  I guess it doesn't really matter to me, as my own one is a launch white one - but it still seems like a strange decision for nintendo to have made, as i'm pretty sure the hardware is GCN compatible anyway.  It's probably not important to the vast majority of Wii users though, when no new GCN games are being released.

Same can be said for Sony removing PS2 disc compatibility on all but launch PS3's, and yet they are now releasing PS2 games on the PSN store.  Obviously emulated, but they could have kept the emulation function within the firmware/kernal.  Again, not that important to me, as my PS2 has a hard drive i install my originals onto anyway - but it is a bit of a slap in the face.

Completely off topic, but hey ho!  ;D

September 16, 2012, 01:52:09 PM
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One thing I didn't like either about removing gcn compatibility is that a lot of games let you use the controller instead of using a wiimote or the classic controller.  At least for me I enjoyed using the gcn controller when playing Mario kart.  It was a dumb move and even worse is that they didn't even lower the price...so essentially people are getting less for the same price :/
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September 16, 2012, 03:55:28 PM
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yeah the ps3 did it real wrong. supposedly to minimize costs. i never owned a ps2 and i wanted to play its games on the ps3, but now i'll have to wait untill hd collection games for the ones i want come out (particularly final fantasy 10, 10 2, and 12.) at least metal gear solid collection exists by now, and FF X is coming out this year (athought no footage or anything has been shown)