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Video Game Perfection!
WolfAlmighty:
--- Quote from: AppleQueso on February 11, 2012, 09:41:54 AM ---Yeah I must definitely have been lucky scoring my TV then. I haven't had any (noticeable) input lag on my retro consoles, etc. Yay me! ;D
'course I could also be less sensitive to it than a lot of people, idk. I'm trying to run some tests and find out just how much my input lag really is.
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A good way to test for lag is to hook your console up to the TV directly, and hook the audio up to a separate stereo unit. To account for any input lag TVs experience a lot of times they will delay the audio by a little bit so that it synchs up with the video. For movies this is fine since you'd never know the difference, but for games it's easy to notice. Once you've done this, play a game where you can make a sound play with the press of a button and see how long it takes between when the sound plays and when the screen processes the image.
Another easy test is if you have a Wii, just check how long it takes between when you move the Wiimote and when the screen shows the motion. Making a quick motion is the best way to do this. On my low-end TV it was horrific, but with the EDGE it's barely noticeable.
AppleQueso:
Yeah trying the wii thing the cursor moves nearly simultaneous with my motions.
WolfAlmighty:
Looks like you got a good TV then, so you won't need an upscaler. What kind of TV do you have?
akrate69:
--- Quote from: tiktektak on February 11, 2012, 04:22:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: WolfAlmighty on February 11, 2012, 12:33:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: AppleQueso on February 10, 2012, 11:26:16 PM ---I must be lucky or something because my TV produces a pretty all around satisfactory image with 240p. At least as long as you're feeding it RGB/Component or better.
Composite signals look pretty awful though, I might hunt down a decent standalone comb filter and an s-video to HDMI converter or something one day for my NES. My TV has no s-video inputs.
From the screenshot on that site though, It doesn't look like it's a huge improvement over how my TV personally handles these systems.
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A lot depends on your TV. Some TVs have decent upscalers which will eliminate, or at least greatly reduce, the input lag and throw out a decent picture. Most TVs have cheapo upscalers that do not and for them, that's what the EDGE is for. Most people don't need upscalers since movies and TV broadcasts are already transmitting in one of the TV's native resolutions. It's only retro gaming nerds like us that would really even have a use for something like this. I've heard that the X360 and PS3 also have built-in upscalers (I know for a fact that the Wii does not) so it's really only retro gamers and Nintendo geeks that need this stuff.
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For 360 and ps3 games only the 360 has an upscaler and always displays it's games in 1080p even when the game natively has been programmed in 720p. The ps3 does not do that. That is why most games on the ps3 are diplayed in 720p.
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Did you mean that the other way around?
AppleQueso:
--- Quote from: WolfAlmighty on February 11, 2012, 03:07:07 PM ---Looks like you got a good TV then, so you won't need an upscaler. What kind of TV do you have?
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Samsung LN46C630. The odd thing is that if you google around you end up finding a bunch of people claiming that it has really bad input lag... I know that there are different panels and that the SQ and SS panels are supposed to be much better than the AA ones. Perhaps the ones with horrible lag use the AA panels?
Either way I guess what matters is that i'm personally satisfied with my gaming experience, which I definitely am. Besides, this TV was a bargain. Scored a display model, got 50% off the sticker price so it was only $350ish