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akrate69:
Even if this site didn't host "signed" covers, a person could always upload their work to a Mediafire type account and link to it from here. As always, they would be welcome to preview their work in the forums. Then whoever wants to could download the covers. If someone real desire is to share their work with the other members here, they wouldn't mind.
sheep2001:
@UB - so if i decide i would like to put a small - 1cm by 1cm sheep icon on the spine of every cover i make, you'd have no problem with them being added to the site?

before i found this site (and before i was proficient with photoshop) i re-covered a lot of my uncased megadrive and master system games from material at zonesega.com - they put a small logo on the back of each and every cover they host, AND IT ANNOYED THE HELL OUT OF ME!!!  I wanted my collection to look as original as possible - i didn't know how to remove the stamp/watermark, and i didn't want it there.

The main ethos of this site is to save original game cover artwork for posterity - i just think if we start allowing/promoting signiatures you are opening a whole wider debate about which covers can have it, where you can put it, size limitations, obscurity, if it's hidden in a barcode - then is it still an original cover.  and what if i grab a whole lot of other peoples work from elsewhere on the net and stamp my own sig on it and upload it?  

I know you are saying nobody is forced to put a sig on their work - but by simply allowing it i think you are not only going against the main ethos of the site, but also steering us down a dangerous road.  I have a feeling however that this is a pointless argument, because your mind is as made up as the rest of us, and you don't see a problem with it.  I say lets leave it until someone who is desperate to have their name on their cover tries to upload it - and we'll find out why, and if they would refuse to upload without it.
Merri:
Sheep: you're very much mixing watermark/logo issue to a true text only crediting, which is a very different thing than what UncleBob is talking about. You're basing a lot of your critic on bad feeling with something that is not what is being suggested and talked about. I also dislike logos, watermarks and everything of such sort... just that we aren't talking about that here.

I think any cover that is an attempt at preserving original does not need any credit on it. Some covers may require more work than others, but when a cover is made to be as much like the original as possible there is no need to be credited the cover maker in the cover itself.

Any cover that may involve a lot of work by someone is a very different case. Say, a custom Pokémon cover set with some awesome artwork used with permission - artwork not done by the cover maker - and the artist wants credit.

Although, I also have some covers coming up that have involved many days worth of work already. The artwork looks just like the original, but is very sharp and detailed, and looks better printed than the original box. A reason why I consider adding something, because those covers aren't your regular mass production stuff that are quickly and easily put together.
UncleBob:

--- Quote from: sheep2001 on February 02, 2012, 05:49:32 AM ---@UB - so if i decide i would like to put a small - 1cm by 1cm sheep icon on the spine of every cover i make, you'd have no problem with them being added to the site?

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I wouldn't care.  Honestly.  Let me get you a list of the GB/GBC covers I need and you can get started - I'd be thrilled to get the last of my GB/GBC covers finished. :D


--- Quote ---i just think if we start allowing/promoting signiatures you are opening a whole wider debate about which covers can have it, where you can put it, size limitations, obscurity, if it's hidden in a barcode - then is it still an original cover.[...] I know you are saying nobody is forced to put a sig on their work - but by simply allowing it i think you are not only going against the main ethos of the site, but also steering us down a dangerous road.
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Minor correction here - we currently do allow signatures/credits.  Snowcone himself said the site does not have an official stance on it.

What I'm saying is if we're going to have an official stance on it, we need to get that posted somewhere.
sheep2001:
I give up - my opinions are stated as above.  Of course I will comply with whatever is decided best for the site as a whole - but as per my own opinions will not be marking my own covers in any way.

@ merri - lots of the covers i do are complete rebuilds, have hand drawn areas, text completely retyped (in multiple EU languages).  And although I don't draw the entire cover myself, it can still equate to hours of work when the source material is poor. 

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