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| UncleBob:
--- Quote from: sheep2001 on February 01, 2012, 06:19:09 PM ---I'm against it because if we say go ahead and put your name on it, it's open to even more interpretation as to where, how big, what format, how prominent. I don't want to have to photoshop every cover before I print it. And as arseen said - if someone is going to take credit for the cover, then shouldn't the provider of the original art and the template get credit too. I think it's easier all round to just ban watermarking/signing. It's worked fine up to now. --- End quote --- ...except that that hasn't been the policy on the site up until now - or ever. As for having to photoshop the credit out of every cover before you print it: A) I think virtually all artists have already said they have no intentions of putting their names on the covers B) If one came along that did, then you could simply chose to print an alternative cover. If no alternatives are available, then you're in the exact same boat you were in before that artist came along - you still have no cover to print. Except now, everyone else who wanted that cover now has an option. Basically, because "you" don't like the idea that someone might want credit for their work, everyone else has to lose out. How is that fair for anyone? |
| AppleQueso:
So so you know, "stupid" is in reference to the discussion itself, not towards you, not towards anyone's viewpoints. You want a serious response form me? Fine. Your argument for this is basically "I'd rather have covers with credits on them then no covers at all, you can photoshop the credits out if you're really that bothered by it". The same argument could be use for, say, lowering the quality standards. I'm sure plenty of members here really wouldn't mind if our quality standards were a lot more lax. I'm sure one could argue that they'd rather have low-quality covers than no covers at all, but that's not the point of this site. As far as I'm concerned, if you're okay with low quality covers, credits on covers, etc., there are PLENTY of other websites out there that will supplement TCP for you. When I look at a custom cover, they generally fall under 3 categories. 1. Replacing goofy/horrible looking retail art with something a little more pleasing. 2. Creating a set of unified covers for a collection of titles. 3. Using alternative art because high resolution scans of the original art are not available. In all 3 cases, the overall point I think is to make the covers look as if they were released retail looking like that. Making them look as close to official packaging as possible in other words. Retail packaging doesn't have COVER CREATED BY ______ on it. Is this me thinking my views on this should dictate site policy? Well sure, me and every single person who's posted in this thread besides you. |
| Merri:
My suggestion for the policy: allow the credit, and the only rule to the placement is in the back as regular text on a single color background. This is super easy for anyone to remove before printing if they wish so. It would also be a very simple rule. There are (non-cover) artists that do want to have their work credited, ie. you ask for a permission from say a DeviantArt artist and they tell they want to be credited for their work. The only way you can do it right now is to add the artist's name in the cover, because it is your name that is credited on the download page here. For the vast majority of the covers that exist right now there is no issue with crediting as the system works for them. Most of the covers are based on uncredited scans anyway. However allowing crediting for special cases such as use of someone else's artwork for a custom cover would give more options and possibilities for great covers. There are far more artists out there than there are cover makers. And far less cover makers who have enough artistic talent to make a great custom cover based on their own artwork. |
| UncleBob:
--- Quote from: AppleQueso on February 01, 2012, 11:32:14 PM ---Your argument for this is basically "I'd rather have covers with credits on them then no covers at all, you can photoshop the credits out if you're really that bothered by it". --- End quote --- My viewpoint is multi-fold. 1) Yes, a lot of it boils down to the fact I'd rather have covers with credits than no covers at all. Yes, of you're bothered by it, you can either photoshop it out (you still get a cover out of it) or just not print it at all (and then you're no worse off than you were beforehand). 2) There are some folks who put a lot of work into their covers - and it shows. If they want to put a credit on the cover, then I don't mind. It's a very minor thing, in my humble opinion, that doesn't take away from the overall quality of the cover and I don't feel right dictating to them that they cannot take credit for their work. 3) Ultimately, no one is being FORCED to sign their work - it's still up to the individual cover artists, of which all who have responded said they have no intentions of signing their work. However, the fact that we're giving the artists a choice is something that errs on the side of caution. --- Quote ---Is this me thinking my views on this should dictate site policy? Well sure, me and every single person who's posted in this thread besides you. --- End quote --- I used quotes around the 'you' for a reason. :D And you are correct - I appear to be the only one really siding with the view point of allowing an artist to take credit on their work if they so wish. While I find that a little sad, that is the purpose of this thread - so that we can discuss it and see how the community feels about it to determine if there is a consensus towards making it an official rule. --- Quote from: Merri on February 01, 2012, 11:54:32 PM ---However allowing crediting for special cases such as use of someone else's artwork for a custom cover would give more options and possibilities for great covers. There are far more artists out there than there are cover makers. And far less cover makers who have enough artistic talent to make a great custom cover based on their own artwork. --- End quote --- Great points. |
| Snowcone:
Here is my take.... I honestly don't care if an artist drops their name in super tiny print in some unknown part of the cover. I would prefer to not have some gigantic artist name on the cover though. I know people in the past have hidden names in the barcode and other places. I see no issue with this. At the end of the day, we will have covers on the site that meet either requirement. |
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