So here's what has happened with nipe, if anyone is interested...

[Snowcone]

Once I buy a game, its cover art belongs to me as well. Sorry Nintendo, but if I want to modify something that is mine then I have the right to do so if I choose.

Yep, but then distributing it to others is the problematic part.

And technically you don't own the art. You own a reproduction/print of the artwork.

[comradesnarky]

How are you even considering criticizing how people are reacting to this? What you've done is VERY unethical, and it still is even if you're saying "but you can get them free here!"

[sheep2001]

Yet again we have 4 pages of crying about covers for sale.  It really boils my tits. Yes my tits - are boiling 

Gamecaseworld is providing a service.  Simple Supply and demand.  I don't care what they charge, but other people obviously think its a fair price to have a cover printed, trimmed, cased, posted and arrive at their door.  If  they didn't gamecaseworld would never have sold any.  Just because YOU think it's a rip off, and YOU are happy printing your own covers doesn't mean that others won't think it's a fair price for the service.

As for them charging for your covers (I don't think they have any of mine) -  you don't own the original art, and you released your cover to the Internet without limitation, so it is going to be used.  Who cares if some entrepreneur makes a few dollars from it? sounds like You're just pissed you didn't make the money yourself.
Nothing unethical -  you live in the land of the free don't you? (although someone needs to remind SOPA of that)

The only person I would see having a valid gripe here is shenske, as he designed the template.  But again he released it to the Internet, and knows people will do as they please with it.

Gamecaseworld are now linking back to us, they are sharing some of their covers with us (go sell those if you want some revenge) and they are closing down the service -  stop whining about it,  and give them a break.  Perhaps their great artists will hang around and contribute.

And to everyone that's whining - can you honestly, hand on heart tell me that you do not have anywhere on your computer/ipod/phone etc a single movie, music file, piece of software past it's trial period that you don't have the original of?  Because that is what is illegal and unethical.  (if you dont have any unsolicited files, then well done - have a gold star)  People in glass houses and all that.

Just my opinion -  as things were a bit one sided in here!

[FFXIK]

Yet again we have 4 pages of crying about covers for sale.  It really boils my tits. Yes my tits - are boiling  

Gamecaseworld is providing a service.  Simple Supply and demand.  I don't care what they charge, but other people obviously think its a fair price to have a cover printed, trimmed, cased, posted and arrive at their door.  If  they didn't gamecaseworld would never have sold any.  Just because YOU think it's a rip off, and YOU are happy printing your own covers doesn't mean that others won't think it's a fair price for the service.

As for them charging for your covers (I don't think they have any of mine) -  you don't own the original art, and you released your cover to the Internet without limitation, so it is going to be used.  Who cares if some entrepreneur makes a few dollars from it? sounds like You're just pissed you didn't make the money yourself.
Nothing unethical -  you live in the land of the free don't you? (although someone needs to remind SOPA of that)

The only person I would see having a valid gripe here is shenske, as he designed the template.  But again he released it to the Internet, and knows people will do as they please with it.

Gamecaseworld are now linking back to us, they are sharing some of their covers with us (go sell those if you want some revenge) and they are closing down the service -  stop whining about it,  and give them a break.  Perhaps their great artists will hang around and contribute.

And to everyone that's whining - can you honestly, hand on heart tell me that you do not have anywhere on your computer/ipod/phone etc a single movie, music file, piece of software past it's trial period that you don't have the original of?  Because that is what is illegal and unethical.  (if you dont have any unsolicited files, then well done - have a gold star)  People in glass houses and all that.

Just my opinion -  as things were a bit one sided in here!

Yay! I gets a gold star  

On another note.  What you're saying is that, if they had used your covers and not givin credit. You would have been fine with it.  Most people I know, tits tend to boil, so to speak, when someone else tries taking credit for work that they put alot of time and effort into.  I don't think you're an exception to that.

On the other hand, TCP is now fully credited for their covers, and they were more that generous to upload covers we didn't have here.  As far as I see it the issue is nullified.  They were very quick to try to bring a peaceful resolution to this.  It's over.

The honest truth of the matter is, both GameCaseWorld and thecoverproject are mass violation of existing copyright law.  GCW is closing shop because of SOPA and PIPA. Don't forget about ACTA, you should read up on that one it's a doozy.  The U.S. has already signed that one. I'm afraid of what those bills and treaties are gong to do to the people of this site.

[AppleQueso]

Truthfully, I'd sooner imagine seeing Deviantart shut down because of all the depictions of copyrighted characters before we are. Or perhaps Mobygames with all their box art scans. What about Etsy? I see lots of functional fan-made trinkets based on numerous copyrighted works.

How are we different from those groups? What we make amounts to, at worst, functional fan art. Despite the massive paranoia, our site is not in danger. Shit this site doesn't even get money from ad revenue.

[FFXIK]

Truthfully, I'd sooner imagine seeing Deviantart shut down because of all the depictions of copyrighted characters before we are. Or perhaps Mobygames with all their box art scans. What about Etsy? I see lots of functional fan-made trinkets based on numerous copyrighted works.


How are we different from those groups? What we make amounts to, at worst, functional fan art. Despite the massive paranoia, our site is not in danger. Shit this site doesn't even get money from ad revenue.

I will not dispute these.  Artists and sellers on those sites are in danger.

Despite that, this site makes copyrighted works available to the public en mass.  Money is not a factor in copyright.  That is a myth.  Thanks to a massive Youtube flame war myself and some other fellows got into, I actually sat down and studied the U.S. Copyright Law.  This site IS violating it.  The problem is that under the current enforcment measures they lack the resources to go after everyone.  SOPA will throw a monkey wrench into that unfortunately

[AppleQueso]

Seriously? You think fan artists are a major concern among copyright holders?

These groups aren't in danger. Fan art has always been infringement and copyright holders have always turned a blind eye to it because there is zero point to actually actively attacking their consumers. SOPA, PIPA, and ACTA will not magically create unlimited manpower and resources, and it won't change the fact that the last thing copyright holders want to do is piss off their consumers with petty claims and shutdowns with virtually no benefit.

Either way, you aren't going to be arrested or fined for it. The worst that would happen would be that you're forced to take down your work. Believing otherwise is sheer paranoia.

We all know the reasons SOPA, etc are being pushed, and it's not because people are making fan art or selling hand-made mega-man puppets or printing covers for their game cases.

[UncleBob]

And to everyone that's whining - can you honestly, hand on heart tell me that you do not have anywhere on your computer/ipod/phone etc a single movie, music file, piece of software past it's trial period that you don't have the original of?

::raises hand::

[shenske]

This has gone far enough. In the next 24 hours im going to give my two cents on this topic/thread. This thread will be locked down tomorrow morning.

[Arseen]

NOOOO.

Having too much fun watching this now pointless arguing.
there has been quiet qiute long now.
Maybe we should put up poll for should this toppic be closed now, tomorrow or never...  

Anyway:
They gave us credit.
That's what we wanted for the most part.
I think that is enough.
Also provided us some covers.

Covers will be sold by someone, can't block that.
I don't really care as long as it doesn't danger our site, and we get some credit.

And after closing this topic should be moved to where the other 2 near identical topics are.

[UncleBob]

Before this thread gets locked down - can we get clarification on the thing about covers having some kind of notation of the artist's name on them?  The thread could have went in a much better direction if someone had jumped in and started discussing this.

[sheep2001]

+1 vote AGAINST watermarking.  I certainly won't be putting anything on mine. 

+1 vote FOR locking or even deleting this thread. 

+1 vote FOR getting some new material up on the site.  Got some time to scan over the next few days, so will start pumping out some goodies. 

[Arseen]

+1 vote AGAINST watermarking.  I certainly won't be putting anything on mine. 

+1 vote AGAINST watermarking.

+1 vote FOR locking or even deleting this thread. 

Will be locked tomorrow, and moved to storage where the two other topics are.

+1 vote FOR getting some new material up on the site.  Got some time to scan over the next few days, so will start pumping out some goodies. 

+1 Vote for this.

I scan as I get them.

I scanned all NES covers I found in my collections yesterday.
I'll search for SNES tonight.

+100 votes that someone who has skills would do covers from them.

Also I have big collection of PS1, PS2, PS3, Xbox, xbox360 covers that I can scan. Too big to list, but I scan if I see one that I have requested.
Also have some GameCube and Wii covers, as well as DC, SAT, MD, MCD.

[UncleBob]

I've flipped through all the guides and such regarding creating covers and I haven't found *anything* that prohibits cover artists from taking credit on their work - can anyone point this out?

Also, I don't think this thread should be moved where the general population can't see it - jshackles, was, for the most part, completely reasonable in his/her replies.  I see no reason to, basically, delete it so that anyone who doesn't check the site on a regular basis would miss out on finding out that the owners of GameCaseWorld.com  aren't as douchy as the first part of this thread made them out to be.

[Arseen]

Not in guides probably. But always when this pops up in topics the "vote" has been strongly against water marking / adding additional artist info to covers.

To move or not to move?
Altough I could do that myself, I leave up to Cover Admins to decide.