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| sheep2001:
or at least take pre-orders/payment for the first run - the funds can be used to bank roll the startup |
| e_brugal:
--- Quote from: sheep2001 on July 21, 2013, 11:27:05 AM ---or at least take pre-orders/payment for the first run - the funds can be used to bank roll the startup --- End quote --- I was thinking of that, if he could take pre orders, it was going to be much easier. But he needs to provide the price |
| Arseen:
--- Quote from: sheep2001 on July 21, 2013, 11:27:05 AM ---or at least take pre-orders/payment for the first run - the funds can be used to bank roll the startup --- End quote --- I'd definitely take part in this. I've never managed to take part in any Kickstarter things as I think I need credit card which I don't want. |
| Seymor Onion:
The more I think about using a crowd-funding website, to raise funds, such as Kickstarter or Crowd Tilt, the more bothered I become by the Chunk they take out of the funds. I'm seriously considering taking pre-orders on my website, and skipping the crowd-funding, since PayPal only charges about 3%, and offers 45 days of "Buyer Protection". I can also accept checks and money orders (without any fees, so long as they don't bounce). I've got one more shot at borrowing a semi-large sum of money, but I want to wait until after I do pre-orders. The max I can borrow is not enough to cover the Mold and the first run, but it should be enough to cover any unexpected expenses that might pop up during the mold making and/or manufacturing process. It would also be nice to lean on it a bit, to lower the pre-order $ goal, and/or add to the funds needed if the pre-orders get close to the goal, but don't quite reach it. Like e_brugal said, before I can start accepting pre-orders, I need to provide the prices for the Game Cases, and the costs for Shipping. That's were I'm hung up at the moment: Getting firm pricing for the Nintendo Main Line Cases. This issue will be resolved, as soon as I earn enough $ for the second CAD guy. I already know I'm going to make more than enough $ for this, with the Third Job, it's just that the work is taking a while, do to some of my customers re-scheduling the work, do to illnesses, or bad weather. However, I already know how much it's going to cost to do the Second Run of GBA Cardboard Insert Trays: $6,065.75. That includes shipping to my warehouse, but it doesn't include shipping to customers. That's too much $ for me to invest in it myself, right now. They are a very slow seller, and based on past sales, it would take about 3 years to recover my investment in them. Besides, I need to get the Nintendo Main Line, Sega Main Line, and/or HuCard Cases made, first. ;) I should receive pricing for several variants of the Hard Plastic HuCard Cases, any day now. The makers of the Gift Card Case, from another thread, have been working on making new CAD Renderings of my suggested changes/alterations to their Gift Card Case, for a while, now. |
| Seymor Onion:
Well, what do you know; I got quotes from the HuCard Case people. Note: These prices don't include the costs of me shipping them to customers. For Option 1 (Won't support TG16 Manuals. Has a Deeper Card Area for HuCards): If I raise $14,400, I'll have to sell each case for $3.08. If I raise $24,000, I'll have to sell each case for $2.12. If I raise $39,500 I'll have to sell each case for $1.78. If I raise $54,000, I'll have to sell each case for $1.64. If I raise $67,000, I'll have to sell each case for $1.54. This option has the exact same pricing as unmodified gift card cases. In order to compete with the $1.08 price-per-case for people who walk into a Hastings Electronics store, I'd have to order several hundred thousand cases. For Option 2 (Supports TG16 Manuals, and Has a Deeper Card Area for HuCards): If I raise $18,400, I'll have to sell each case for $3.88. If I raise $33,500, I'll have to sell each case for $2.88. If I raise $57,500 I'll have to sell each case for $2.50. If I raise $80,250 I'll have to sell each case for $2.34. If I raise $97,000, I'll have to sell each case for $2.14. I need to share these numbers with several TG16/PCE homebrew groups, and talk about them on several other forums, before I can decide to peruse it at this time, or not. Any input, you all have about them, is needed, and most welcome. ;) |
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