SNES Box Reproductions

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shenske:

--- Quote from: Ownaholic on December 27, 2011, 04:48:02 AM ---I haven't 100% decided on the prices yet, so it could end up being lower. I think I might actually drop it to $10 each; that ought to still cover the costs of materials and the high-priced laser toner. Don't forget there's always shipping to deal with; but that shouldn't be much.

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I still think those prices are a bit high. I made my n64 mini boxes using a laser printer and it only costs $0.95 for the whole box. To make a full size recreation it would use two sheets for a total of $1.90. Then if we add shipping (ballpark) $2. $5 a box shipped to the house seems reasonable to me :)

Ownaholic:

--- Quote from: shenske on December 27, 2011, 10:55:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ownaholic on December 27, 2011, 04:48:02 AM ---I haven't 100% decided on the prices yet, so it could end up being lower. I think I might actually drop it to $10 each; that ought to still cover the costs of materials and the high-priced laser toner. Don't forget there's always shipping to deal with; but that shouldn't be much.

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I still think those prices are a bit high. I made my n64 mini boxes using a laser printer and it only costs $0.95 for the whole box. To make a full size recreation it would use two sheets for a total of $1.90. Then if we add shipping (ballpark) $2. $5 a box shipped to the house seems reasonable to me :)

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So basically I'd be getting $1 for each sale. Given the fact that I put hours of work into the designs, let alone the template itself, and then it takes some time to assemble each box after scoring and gluing properly, and finally driving to the post office over and over again; hardly seems worth it for just one dollar per sale.

Believe me, I'm not the type of person to rip people off; I hate the fact that the guy over at GameReproductions.com charges as ridiculously as he does (I know the entire repro process, and it should definitely not cost that much) for cart reproductions, but the thing is I feel I deserve to make at least some margin of profit for this level of effort on my part.

If money didn't matter, I'd happily be giving these away for free.

Although, perhaps I can give away some freebies every now and then to promote my website; but I wouldn't dare do that here.

shenske:
True but I am a firm believer that if you do not own the images then you should not make a profit. I'm honestly not trying to sound aggressive but I don't care that you may or may not own the copyrighted arrangement. To me it all comes down to the artwork and who made it.

I wouldn't feel right about switching the logo around on Chrono Trigger artwork and making it into posters to resell. Just because I created a new arrangement doesn't make it mine (in my opinion of coarse). The artwork is Akira Toriyama and Square Enix's property. I couldn't ethically (or possibly legally) redistribute for a personal financial gain.

What we are about on this site is preserving the video game covers at absolutely no charge. We are more focused on the entire community of gamers over ourselves. I understand that making the images ready to print takes some time and you feel you should be paid for that time but that still doesn't sync with our philosophy here. I have easily spent over 1000 hours of my free time creating covers for our community and I don't feel the need to be financially reimbursed for time spent.

In my opinion making covers or box recreations should be more of a service rather than a business.

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--- Quote from: Ownaholic on December 27, 2011, 11:04:12 PM ---So basically I'd be getting $1 for each sale. Given the fact that I put hours of work into the designs, let alone the template itself, and then it takes some time to assemble each box after scoring and gluing properly, and finally driving to the post office over and over again; hardly seems worth it for just one dollar per sale.

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Lets just say that the average cover/box takes 1hr to complete on the computer.
   - This takes me about 1ish starting from a raw image to completion.
You sell only 10 boxes and you have already made some money. Not to mention you could likely sell far more than 10 boxes.
   - Assembly really doesn't take that long especially when you are doing multiple boxes at the same time.
   - 5min max on each box
You will definitely not get rich or make a living but it would be enough for your time.

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Ehh .... perhaps i'm just a cheapass.
I just really think that videogame preservation should be as free as possible since we are preserving something we don't have the rights to redistribute.
(sorry for beating a dead horse by saying pretty much the same thing again)

sheep2001:
I don't see why everyone is getting agitated here. Ownaholic only asked for opinion on the quality of his work.

If he wants to charge $100.or $1000 for something he's designed and made himself - who cares. And if there are people prepared to pay that for it even better for him. Simple supply and demand. Nothing we buy costs that much to produce - there has to be profit in it or people go out of business.

Give him a break and stop perpetuating the advertising of these things for sale by just giving opinions on the quality of the covers.

Myself, I think the logo on the som2 box needs some work.

shenske:

--- Quote from: sheep2001 on December 28, 2011, 03:16:44 AM ---If he wants to charge $100.or $1000 for something he's designed and made himself - who cares. And if there are people prepared to pay that for it even better for him. Simple supply and demand. Nothing we buy costs that much to produce - there has to be profit in it or people go out of business.

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I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention of 'ripping on him' for his prices. He has the right to charge as he pleases, as it is very unlikely the game developers of the games he is making the boxes for would come down on him. I was just giving my incite as to what he should charge in my opinion. He said he didn't have a firm price so i was commenting on that part of what he said. I may have swirled things a bit off topic by focusing on that little part of what he wrote.

I'll get back on topic and examine / give some pointers about his images on my next post. :)

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