The Cover Project
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: videogametrader on January 22, 2019, 01:48:17 PM
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I noticed today that CoverGalaxy.com is redirecting to TheCoverProject.net. Is it gone? Are their covers archived anywhere?
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Damn, you're right. And that website is not a particularly easy one to search. You find all kinds of Android phones cases.. -_-
I wonder what's going on too. Hopefully if you need anything specific, someone is able to help you out.
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Well damn, I was just there a few days ago too. That went quickly.
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_mWO_QTqnAgJ:www.covergalaxy.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Largely, cover galaxy users would pull covers from us and pass them off as their own. I will say, it's kind ,of the owners of Cover Galaxy, to redirect to us.
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Interesting. I'm not sure what to think of this. lol.
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Almost seems like they forgot to renew their Domain and TheCoverProject snagged it.
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Or they got sued or something and now try to shift the blame to us.
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Or they might have gotten a cease-and-desist from a game company who discovered them hosting newer game covers and they pulled the site in response.
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Be careful everyone
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If something like this happens here, is there anyone we can contact via email to see what's going on?
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Please everyone, don't make assumptions or speculations. It will only created unfounded concerns. CG has been on a decline for years now and it's closure was a matter of when not if.
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I don't see how This site could get in trouble. It is not like the copyright holders sell replacement covers. So claiming prevention of sale is not an issue. This site does not sell covers. so it is not profiting off of their copyright. Maybe someone could explain why or how there could be trouble.
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Please everyone, don't make assumptions or speculations. It will only created unfounded concerns. CG has been on a decline for years now and it's closure was a matter of when not if.
That's incredibly fair, we have no idea what went on over there, everything is speculation at this point.
I don't see how This site could get in trouble. It is not like the copyright holders sell replacement covers. So claiming prevention of sale is not an issue. This site does not sell covers. so it is not profiting off of their copyright. Maybe someone could explain why or how there could be trouble.
Basically, in the U.S. and most other developed nations, there's pretty strict copyright laws that are there to ensure that copyright holders get final say in when and how their products/creations are used, regardless of whether or not the party using said materials is gaining from the use financially. For example, Di$ney have gone out of their way to sue small businesses like day care centers for displaying store-bought decorations of Mickey and other trademarked characters of their brand. It's petty as all hell, but Di$ney rationalizes it by saying that they do their suing because while decorations of their characters and such are perfectly legal to buy, displaying them in a business could lead people to believe that they endorse said business.
As that relates to the site, it could be argued that sites like this one and Cover Galaxy are using the original creations of others outside of what would be considered "fair use" in copyright law. Fair use typically being reserved for the press reviewing or covering the creation or products related to it and other marketing media. Here, and at the other site, it could be argued that we're taking copyrighted materials, modifying them from their original format and hosting them on the site without the consent, written or otherwise, of the copyright holders.
The thing to remember is that the copyright holder has final say as to how their item is used. It doesn't matter if money exchanges hands, it doesn't matter if no ill will was intended, it doesn't matter if the copyright holder has all-but-abandoned the item, it's theirs to do with as they please for as long as the copyright is in effect. (Which is about seventy years, depending on the country where it was registered)
Now, with all that said, would these companies go after this site or another site for hosting video game covers? It's possible. It depends on the company. I feel that Di$ney absolutely would. If they're unscrupulous enough to go after businesses that care for toddlers, there's little stopping them from going after grown adults hosting video game box art. A lot of smaller companies might as well, or individuals holding copyrights, as if they hold a smaller number of copyrighted works, they tend to be more protective of what they got and might be more inclined to keep an eye on what's going on with their few properties. It's like how you could expect a landlord with only one rental unit to be more focused on their individual property than a corporation that owns multiple apartment buildings would be toward any single unit in those buildings. It could be said that many of those companies, like LJN and Hi Tech Expressions, don't even exist anymore, but in cases like LJN's, another company now holds the copyrights to their materials. Also, take into account that many games are based on pre-existing franchises (which was LJN's bread and butter) and the copyright holders of the original material their games are based on might also have a say in what happens to their stuff. (Like WWE and Universal Studios, for instance)
So, the question is: So will they or won't they go after a site like this? The answer is somewhere in the middle. It can happen, but the risk is ultimately small for the site and the reward, beyond removal of the site (which would likely just have a spiritual successor and so on and so forth to infinity) is minimal for the companies that would be litigating against the site.
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If something like this happens here, is there anyone we can contact via email to see what's going on?
It won't, but you can always ping me at sbgamescone [at] gmail.com
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I talked to Jason from CG and he said he just ran out of time to run the site and setup the redirect. I have an active dialogue with him, but there is no risk to the site at this time.
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well good newa then :)
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Is there a way to backup the resources on the site? Not lose the resources (covers)...
Please everyone, don't make assumptions or speculations. It will only created unfounded concerns. CG has been on a decline for years now and it's closure was a matter of when not if.
That's incredibly fair, we have no idea what went on over there, everything is speculation at this point.
I don't see how This site could get in trouble. It is not like the copyright holders sell replacement covers. So claiming prevention of sale is not an issue. This site does not sell covers. so it is not profiting off of their copyright. Maybe someone could explain why or how there could be trouble.
Basically, in the U.S. and most other developed nations, there's pretty strict copyright laws that are there to ensure that copyright holders get final say in when and how their products/creations are used, regardless of whether or not the party using said materials is gaining from the use financially. For example, Di$ney have gone out of their way to sue small businesses like day care centers for displaying store-bought decorations of Mickey and other trademarked characters of their brand. It's petty as all hell, but Di$ney rationalizes it by saying that they do their suing because while decorations of their characters and such are perfectly legal to buy, displaying them in a business could lead people to believe that they endorse said business.
As that relates to the site, it could be argued that sites like this one and Cover Galaxy are using the original creations of others outside of what would be considered "fair use" in copyright law. Fair use typically being reserved for the press reviewing or covering the creation or products related to it and other marketing media. Here, and at the other site, it could be argued that we're taking copyrighted materials, modifying them from their original format and hosting them on the site without the consent, written or otherwise, of the copyright holders.
The thing to remember is that the copyright holder has final say as to how their item is used. It doesn't matter if money exchanges hands, it doesn't matter if no ill will was intended, it doesn't matter if the copyright holder has all-but-abandoned the item, it's theirs to do with as they please for as long as the copyright is in effect. (Which is about seventy years, depending on the country where it was registered)
Now, with all that said, would these companies go after this site or another site for hosting video game covers? It's possible. It depends on the company. I feel that Di$ney absolutely would. If they're unscrupulous enough to go after businesses that care for toddlers, there's little stopping them from going after grown adults hosting video game box art. A lot of smaller companies might as well, or individuals holding copyrights, as if they hold a smaller number of copyrighted works, they tend to be more protective of what they got and might be more inclined to keep an eye on what's going on with their few properties. It's like how you could expect a landlord with only one rental unit to be more focused on their individual property than a corporation that owns multiple apartment buildings would be toward any single unit in those buildings. It could be said that many of those companies, like LJN and Hi Tech Expressions, don't even exist anymore, but in cases like LJN's, another company now holds the copyrights to their materials. Also, take into account that many games are based on pre-existing franchises (which was LJN's bread and butter) and the copyright holders of the original material their games are based on might also have a say in what happens to their stuff. (Like WWE and Universal Studios, for instance)
So, the question is: So will they or won't they go after a site like this? The answer is somewhere in the middle. It can happen, but the risk is ultimately small for the site and the reward, beyond removal of the site (which would likely just have a spiritual successor and so on and so forth to infinity) is minimal for the companies that would be litigating against the site.
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I think that the only way is having a back up each of us
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Is there a way to backup the resources on the site? Not lose the resources (covers)...
The content at CG? I've asked Jason for access to this already.
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Is there a way to backup the resources on the site? Not lose the resources (covers)...
The content at CG? I've asked Jason for access to this already.
That would be awesome if we can get those covers. At least any that were hosted there.
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I talked to Jason from CG and he said he just ran out of time to run the site and setup the redirect. I have an active dialogue with him, but there is no risk to the site at this time.
That's good news! Glad that's all it is.
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I talked to Jason from CG and he said he just ran out of time to run the site and setup the redirect. I have an active dialogue with him, but there is no risk to the site at this time.
That is very kind and professional of him. Glad to hear it is nothing negative.
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I'm very relieved that the reason CoverGalaxy.com is gone is NOT because of copyright infringement. I would be so heart-broken if this website disappeared. I have been making covers for five years now.