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Title: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Thom Grayson on August 07, 2015, 07:29:23 PM
Nintendo has a lot riding on NX - so what do you want to see it be when it is released? Feel free to look at it as either what you personally want, or what you think Nintendo needs to do to become a major player again.

Some options (not an exhaustive list by any means):

A: Basically just a Wii U with PS4-matching hardware. Retains backwards compatibility.

B: A microconsole with a classic-styled controller, for Virtual Console games and downloadable-only titles.

C: A traditional gaming system, but more powerful than anything that is currently out.

D: An extremely powerful handheld that merges the Wii U and 3DS lines into a single hybrid product, interface-wise.

E: An attempt to capture interest with some gimmick that no one else is currently using. Surprise innovation, if you will.

F: Some kind of VR play, maybe a completely self-contained headset.

G: Redesigned hardware (think Wii U 'slim'), a price cut, multiple high-profile games and some aggressive advertising is all it will take for people to want the Wii U!

H: It doesn't matter what they do now, they are dying a slow death and NX won't stop that.

I: There's nothing wrong with the Wii U, and announcing NX is just going to hurt Nintendo now.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Arseen on August 07, 2015, 07:38:10 PM
C with D as controller, with E anf F if done properly.

And I want true sequel to Super Mario 64, not 2.5D tube running ala Super Mario 3D World.
Add RPG like XP system where you get new skills by levelling up.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Pianomanfreak on August 07, 2015, 08:33:49 PM
Simple 2 words Cross Buy.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Einhander on August 07, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
Will NX support 3d games or just 8 and 16 bit?

How cheap will the games be? And is there any benefit to owning 8 and 16 bit games when there are already countless amounts of them out there? I'm just saying. Why not just make games for the older consoles? How is this one different? It sounds good, but will this console last long? How is it any different than all the retro consoles?
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: TDIRunner on August 07, 2015, 09:26:43 PM
I just want the next system to combine home and portable consoles into one system.  It needs to be more powerful than PS4/Xbox One.

And fully backwards compatible with AT LEAST:
•   Wii
•   Wii U
•   DS
•   3DS

I say “at least” because it would be really cool for them to somehow incorporate backwards compatibility with all older Nintendo consoles.  I realize that having cart slots for all of those older systems would be cost prohibitive, but how awesome would that be?
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Araden64 on August 07, 2015, 09:33:52 PM
I want them to do away with the tablet control and add gamecube backwards compatability.  Maybe remote play with the new 3ds too.

I haven't bought a Nintendo tv console since the gamecube just because both of the wiis seemed so gimmicky to me.  And the library seemed so limited.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Dr.Agon on August 07, 2015, 10:36:37 PM
C or G

Even if it was only for a couple of years, it'd be so cool to say that Nintendo has the most powerful console, after being behind for the last few.

However, I only just got my Wii-U so it'd be great if Nintendo could just ride it out for the next 2-3 years, get some amazing 3rd party games and wait to see what Sony and Microsoft do with the 'PS5' and 'XBOX TWO'
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Thom Grayson on August 08, 2015, 04:25:00 AM
C or G

Even if it was only for a couple of years, it'd be so cool to say that Nintendo has the most powerful console, after being behind for the last few.

However, I only just got my Wii-U so it'd be great if Nintendo could just ride it out for the next 2-3 years, get some amazing 3rd party games and wait to see what Sony and Microsoft do with the 'PS5' and 'XBOX TWO'

I feel like power is the reason why Nintendo isn't getting third-party support now, and third-party support is what is killing them when people think about buying a Wii U.

People don't think "The Wii U has Super Smash Brothers, Mario, Splatoon" etc., instead they think "If I buy this I won't be getting X' with X being pretty much every third party game.

By that math, the list of 'deficiencies' in the Wii U lineup is longer than its list of positives, making it look worse than it is.

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My vote, using my own options, is A/F/I because:

A: They need to close the power gap, which will both make third-party development less work (since porting will become a more straightforward process) and remove one of the largest knocks against it. After all, look at how much flak the Xbox One has gotten for what amounts to a 5-10% difference in power, and consider, the Wii U has it 5 times worse!

F: I think Nintendo's penchant for simpler, more colorful games would translate better to VR (at its current level of technical sophistication) than 'traditional' big-budget games will. And I would love to see Metroid Prime in VR. The fact that in-universe you are wearing a helmet makes the 'I've got a thing on my head' aspect of VR go from being an irritation to being immersive!

As long as they don't call it 'Virtual Boy 2', they'll be fine.

I: Announcing the NX makes it feel like Nintendo is holding back for the NX release. And yes, they DO need to have a killer lineup when it launches, but what they don't need is anything that creates the impression that the Wii U is low-priority for Nintendo, especially not with the NX launch at least a year out.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: ZX the Hedgehog on August 08, 2015, 06:42:00 PM
With what I've seen, it is going to be D, though from what seems to be implied (the NX will be less powerful than the PS4), there is a good possibility that the end result may be H.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: marioxb on August 09, 2015, 08:40:13 AM
Will NX support 3d games or just 8 and 16 bit?

How cheap will the games be? And is there any benefit to owning 8 and 16 bit games when there are already countless amounts of them out there? I'm just saying. Why not just make games for the older consoles? How is this one different? It sounds good, but will this console last long? How is it any different than all the retro consoles?

Pretty sure you are thinking of something else.

Nintendo NX is Nintendo's next system. Wii 3 if you will
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Staf on August 09, 2015, 12:48:14 PM
Will NX support 3d games or just 8 and 16 bit?

How cheap will the games be? And is there any benefit to owning 8 and 16 bit games when there are already countless amounts of them out there? I'm just saying. Why not just make games for the older consoles? How is this one different? It sounds good, but will this console last long? How is it any different than all the retro consoles?

Pretty sure you are thinking of something else.

Nintendo NX is Nintendo's next system. Wii 3 if you will


We don't know that just yet. It could just be an OS that runs on handhelds and consoles.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: marioxb on August 09, 2015, 05:28:00 PM
Well, 99% sure it's not a retro system.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Blumpkin on August 09, 2015, 07:24:04 PM
Games.

Nintendo has to create a system that publishers see as lucrative. It has to be easy to port the same games to the NX as it is for the PS4 and X1.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Blumpkin on August 09, 2015, 07:55:35 PM
I can see a portable/home console hybrid, but Nintendo needs to stop being gimmicky. I think the Wiimote was an anomaly, and the Wii U tablet a failure.

And they really need to catch up in the digital market. They have the biggest library of games that they can reach into, however they rarely put them onto the eShop. They don't feature cross-buy/cross-save, they don't have achievements/trophys, and they still don't facilitate team voice chat.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: sheep2001 on August 10, 2015, 01:28:23 AM
A system with free/cheap access to back catalogue, all the way back to its roots.  Less bothered with wii compatibility - with an achievement/trophy system.

I don't much care for online gaming, but online leaderboards would be fun.

High spec, no gimmicks.  Solid hardware that's easy to develop for.

Home brew friendly out of the box.  Dangerous for piracy issues, but the PS1 managed it with the net yaroze.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: wiggy on August 10, 2015, 05:20:55 AM
Why anyone thinks "power" is relevant at all is beyond me.  If your rationale is that the NX will see more cross-platform titles, then I still believe it makes no difference. Nintendo consoles don't thrive because of Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty.

Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Thom Grayson on August 10, 2015, 07:54:17 AM
Why anyone thinks "power" is relevant at all is beyond me.  If your rationale is that the NX will see more cross-platform titles, then I still believe it makes no difference. Nintendo consoles don't thrive because of Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty.

I'm sure there are some Nintendo fans who would like not to have to choose between a Nintendo console and one that can play the third-party games they are interested in.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: sheep2001 on August 10, 2015, 08:02:41 AM
I want power to enable ultra high resolutions, and high spec first party games.

There is no point basing a new piece of hardware with out of date specs, other than to keep production costs down.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: wiggy on August 10, 2015, 06:09:55 PM
Why anyone thinks "power" is relevant at all is beyond me.  If your rationale is that the NX will see more cross-platform titles, then I still believe it makes no difference. Nintendo consoles don't thrive because of Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty.

I'm sure there are some Nintendo fans who would like not to have to choose between a Nintendo console and one that can play the third-party games they are interested in.

I'm sure there are as well. But I'd wager that it just isn't all that many. I know I sure as hell don't buy Nintendo consoles to play 3rd party/multi-platform games. 
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: TDIRunner on August 10, 2015, 09:01:50 PM
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I know I sure as hell don't buy Nintendo consoles to play 3rd party/multi-platform games.

I'm the say way.........BUT........ it would be nice if it didn't have to be that way
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: RealPlumpBox on August 10, 2015, 11:27:50 PM
I would love for it to be the complete opposite of what the Wii U is.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Thom Grayson on August 10, 2015, 11:37:08 PM
I would love for it to be the complete opposite of what the Wii U is.

I am now anticipating a philosophical debate about what the opposite of a Wii U is :P
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: RealPlumpBox on August 10, 2015, 11:55:05 PM
I would love for it to be the complete opposite of what the Wii U is.

I am now anticipating a philosophical debate about what the opposite of a Wii U is :P

A system without a stupid gimmick, and more than 5 games I want. (there really are about 5 games that interest me on that system.)
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Dr.Agon on August 11, 2015, 06:57:46 AM
OR, how about this;

J: some kind of deal with a few high profile devs. (Capcom, SquareEnix, Bethesda etc. ), where Nintendo pays for half of the cost to port/make Wii-U games, and sends a small dev. team out to assist, this reduces the risk to the devs. slightly, and increases the chance of 3rd party games 100% !
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Einhander on August 11, 2015, 01:56:37 PM
I'm not getting an NX until they prove themselves. I did buy a Wii U but to be honest, that's because I feel like todays games aren't varied enough. You can't play Bayonetta 2 on a PS4. You can play Bayonetta on a 360 though, but does PS4 have anything quite like Bayonetta? That's the real reason I have a Wii U, just because the other systems are lacking so much. I don't know..

But if NX turns out to be another gimmick, I'm not getting it, at least not until it's dirt cheap and not in demand anymore.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: RealPlumpBox on August 11, 2015, 07:15:39 PM
I'm not getting an NX until they prove themselves. I did buy a Wii U but to be honest, that's because I feel like todays games aren't varied enough. You can't play Bayonetta 2 on a PS4. You can play Bayonetta on a 360 though, but does PS4 have anything quite like Bayonetta? That's the real reason I have a Wii U, just because the other systems are lacking so much. I don't know..

But if NX turns out to be another gimmick, I'm not getting it, at least not until it's dirt cheap and not in demand anymore.

My thinking also.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Moviefan2k4 on August 14, 2015, 01:36:39 AM
And I want true sequel to Super Mario 64, not 2.5D tube running ala Super Mario 3D World.
We already got a sequel to SM64; ever heard of New Super Mario Bros. Wii?
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: marioxb on August 14, 2015, 03:40:09 AM
Um, no New SMB is nothing like SM64. But, Super Mario Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2 sorta are. I want the NX to be PS4/ Xbox One equivalent/ better and get all of the games that they get too. Much like GameCube. GameCube was actually had the highest specs of it's generation, and I believe the Wii U is supposed to be better than PS3/ Xbox 360. If the NX isn't as/ more powerful than PS4/ Xbox One, why not just keep making Wii U games? I love mine. And I love the GamePad. But it should be a little more optional than it is.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: TDIRunner on August 14, 2015, 08:15:31 AM
And I want true sequel to Super Mario 64, not 2.5D tube running ala Super Mario 3D World.
We already got a sequel to SM64; ever heard of New Super Mario Bros. Wii?

I'm a little confiused there as well.  I 've never consider NSMB to be a direct seqeul to Mario 64. 

In fact, New Super Mario Bros. Wii was a sequel to New Super Mario Bros.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Arseen on August 14, 2015, 09:12:10 AM
Um, no New SMB is nothing like SM64. But, Super Mario Sunshine and Galaxy 1 and 2 sorta are. I want the NX to be PS4/ Xbox One equivalent/ better and get all of the games that they get too. Much like GameCube. GameCube was actually had the highest specs of it's generation, and I believe the Wii U is supposed to be better than PS3/ Xbox 360. If the NX isn't as/ more powerful than PS4/ Xbox One, why not just keep making Wii U games? I love mine. And I love the GamePad. But it should be a little more optional than it is.

I'm a little confiused there as well.  I 've never consider NSMB to be a direct seqeul to Mario 64. 

In fact, New Super Mario Bros. Wii was a sequel to New Super Mario Bros.

These

NSMB games are sequels to 2D Marios, I think more to SMB1 than the later ones even.

Sunshine, Galaxies, SM3DL and SM3DW are sequels of Mario 64, but are more 2D tube runners than open 3D Marios like SM64 is, hence I call them 2.5D.

So I want 3D Mario with wast open worlds where you can choose your route (and have to find the route and the goal).
Add some sort of clever exp system that little by little powers you up or gives you access to additional powers.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: kzbolin on August 17, 2015, 09:53:01 AM
NSMB games are sequels to 2D Marios, I think more to SMB1 than the later ones even.

Sunshine, Galaxies, SM3DL and SM3DW are sequels of Mario 64, but are more 2D tube runners than open 3D Marios like SM64 is, hence I call them 2.5D.

So I want 3D Mario with wast open worlds where you can choose your route (and have to find the route and the goal).
Add some sort of clever exp system that little by little powers you up or gives you access to additional powers.

I agree that the Galaxies, SM3DL and SM3DW are more like 2D tube runners than open 3D Marios, but Sunshine is an open 3D Mario like SM64. I too want a direct sequel or something very simlar to SM64 though.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Rx_79 on August 21, 2015, 03:20:31 PM
Happy Console Gamer ponders if next Zelda will be for WiiU or NX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaqwxRfhiQ
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: wiggy on August 23, 2015, 05:13:03 AM
Good games.

Nothing else matters.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: MegaRayman6 on August 24, 2015, 02:07:26 PM
What i want from NX is the ability to download 3DS titles for Virtual Console like the Wii U with some DS games like Kirby Squeak Squad, New Super Mario Bros. and Mario Kart DS.
And the compability with amiibo 2.0 (not yet released!)
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Arseen on August 24, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Good games.

Nothing else matters.

Except if it's download only.
If it is = no buy = piracy/emulation here I come.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Rx_79 on August 24, 2015, 02:24:07 PM
I agree,

A-lot of rumors going around about it not having a disc drive and being download only.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: segamer on August 24, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
I agree,

A-lot of rumors going around about it not having a disc drive and being download only.

I saw that rumor today. If the Nintendo NX has no form of physical medium, I couldn't see myself buying it as I collect physical games.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: TDIRunner on August 24, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
I agree,

A-lot of rumors going around about it not having a disc drive and being download only.

I saw that rumor today. If the Nintendo NX has no form of physical medium, I couldn't see myself buying it as I collect physical games.

I agree, expect that inevitably, this is where the video game industry is heading. 
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Arseen on August 24, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
I agree,

A-lot of rumors going around about it not having a disc drive and being download only.

I saw that rumor today. If the Nintendo NX has no form of physical medium, I couldn't see myself buying it as I collect physical games.

There was no mentin that the patent was for NX, it was simply random patent that companies take.
And it might be that instead of discs it uses some sort of SD card type media.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: TDIRunner on August 24, 2015, 03:55:21 PM
I agree,

A-lot of rumors going around about it not having a disc drive and being download only.

I saw that rumor today. If the Nintendo NX has no form of physical medium, I couldn't see myself buying it as I collect physical games.

There was no mentin that the patent was for NX, it was simply random patent that companies take.
And it might be that instead of discs it uses some sort of SD card type media.

Well again, I would love to see that, but I really think that companies want to go the digital route to get away from the expenses of physical media.  If the NX is a home and portable console in one, it would also be easier to use some type of Cloud based system for games rather than physical media.  I'm not saying I want it, I just have a feeling that we are headed that way.
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: segamer on August 24, 2015, 04:05:15 PM

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Well again, I would love to see that, but I really think that companies want to go the digital route to get away from the expenses of physical media.  If the NX is a home and portable console in one, it would also be easier to use some type of Cloud based system for games rather than physical media.  I'm not saying I want it, I just have a feeling that we are headed that way.


In terms of Digital, I don't trust Nintendo. I had like 50 games on my Wii and it got stolen. Lost all my games. Now, the original 3DS I purchased, I gave it to my nephew and replaced it with an XL. When I tried to create a single account for my Wii U and 3DS XL, it didn't let me. I had to start a new account. I purchased a 2Ds for my daughter and it made me open a new account for that.  I have like 300 points on my original Wii that I'll never use but there's no way I can transfer those over to my Wii U. Unlike Apple products, PSN or Xbox Live which uses a single account for all products, Nintendo doesn't. Nintendo has a big lump of mess!
Title: Re: What do you want from NX?
Post by: Rx_79 on August 26, 2015, 10:05:50 AM
Same thing happened to me. Sent my WII in for repairs and when it came back the software was reset and games were gone.

I also lost my PSN account long ago and lost a few games. I was using an email from a non main stream email service, and one day the web site died. Just vanished. I had auto log in on so long I forgot my password. So I couldnt get in or have a email reminder sent.