The Cover Project
General Category => The Request Forum => Topic started by: Josh-Photoshop on July 16, 2015, 02:40:46 PM
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Maybe post a few of your covers so we can see what your work is like? Be handy to have another guy working on Banisher's raw scans.
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Maybe post a few of your covers so we can see what your work is like? Be handy to have another guy working on Banisher's raw scans.
That is exactly what I am thinking. Seriously, thank you.
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Those covers look good to me, I hope it meets the standard of this website. I have few raw scan, please help.
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Can you please try to work on Faceball 2000? Someone did the back and it is kind of decent, but not too sure is it up to the standard of this website:
http://postimg.org/image/b9cey1x7f/
RAW SCAN:
http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Nintendo%20-%20SNES/Arseen.retail.raw_snes_faceball2000front.jpg
http://www.thecoverproject.net/uploads/raw/Nintendo%20-%20SNES/Arseen.retail.raw_snes_faceball2000back_none.jpg
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*** WARNING! Essay Approaching ***
Welcome to the forums and site Josh! great to have a new and enthusiastic cover maker around! ;)
And of course, many many thanks for offering to make covers that the site needs to fill gaps in certain lists...........you have arrived at a very opportune time as the main man who is collating scans to get the SNES Horizontal retail section complete, Banisher, has just shelled out over $1000 on boxes JUST SO he can scan them in for us cover creators to turn into UGC covers for the site!
He has been begging for assistance, as it has been just him and I (with only sporadic input from others but more recently Arkazhel on a more consistent basis) tackling the old random covers for a while now.
For the sake of your "real" introduction to the process here......and what I mean by that, is your first taste of the kinds of feedback the cover admin's who assess whether covers are up to the super, and rightly so, high standards necessary for the site will give.........I just chose one of your SNES covers (WITWI Carmen Sandiego) to have a look at from my perspective.
So please take this feedback as it is intended from me, which is with the utmost respect for what WE (as in, you too!) do and purely for constructive purposes to both ensure the quality we have here is always ensured........but equally so you know what to expect when the cover admin's begin assessing your covers (and it is not so much of a shock to the system when they perhaps get rejected! ;D )
Also, please note that I and many other starting cover makers have gone through the same/a similar learning/feedback curve.......so the "issues" I am about to post regarding that cover individually are not something ANY of us havent had pointed out (and had to address if we want our covers uploaded to the site)........so please do not be put off and feel free to come back at it with some venom to get it out of your system if you feel like it! :D ......I just like to do this for new people as receiving this kind of feedback really has helped me improve so much, and I want to pay that back putting a lot effort into REALLY explaining what we mean here, rather than perhaps a cover of yours just not being uploaded and you never knowing why (as the admin's are super busy with the reviewing of covers so cant always
1 - Zoom in, zoom in, zoom in - Yeah, 200% minimum, 300% preferable..........and if you do on the cover I chose there, you will see all kinds of dust, flick, scratches, specks, imperfections all over the cover. This is where many people who start here have issues, as obviously from a normal distance your covers look fantastic!! but when you zoom in.......and when they are printed, these things will show.
As you sound like an experienced Photoshopper, I am sure I do not need to explain what the clone stamp tool is, or perhaps even suggest anything else that would aide in clearing/cleaning up these things that a cover admin would instantly spot and say are not up to the required level.
2 - Contrast and colour balance - Again, even with your covers looking great from a normal view.........I instantly felt the images and colours in them looked a little "flat".
So play with the contrast and colour balances to make them pop more and generally look sharper......both for the overall quality purposes and also because again, the cover admin's would more than likely point this out.
3 - Overall quality of art and game play captures - Really just more a focus on these in terms of ensuring both they pop and also have any and all blemishes removed.
NTSC-U Horizontal retail covers are one of the few that cover admin's will allow for "original" images from scans to be used, so long as they are cleaned up to a very high standard......otherwise, they want them re-captured through an emulator or Youtube video (yes, thats, right! lol, re-capturing the EXACT scenario depicted in the game image).
4 - Less is "Moire" - Sorry, just trying to be funny instead of making these titles all "Do THIS!"..........but I am sure you know what the moire effect is, ie: the dot matrix type look these old scans carry with them.
The cover admin's like this effect removed/mitigated for as much as possible......so a filtering process of noise reduction, median levels, or just any way you know of/like to remove such an effect will be fine.
5 - General colouring, solidifying of text - This is key for ALL text on the cover.......typically all the legal text down the bottom on the back is re-typed so as to make it as clear and sharp as possible, otherwise if you copy it directly from the scan then it will either not be sharp enough (as is the case with the cover I have looked at) or require a MASSIVE amount of work/re-drawing over to make it so.
Also, game logo's (ie: the name of the game) needs to be crazy sharp text wise, so focus on that especially.
And finally, those troublesome scans that have a text box or perhaps text layered over an image.......they need to be sharpened and the colours of the text box and/or image made perfect as well.
Best way to explain this, is via the white text box on the back of Carmen Sandiego - where it is originally white, you have obviously copied that over but its not white as in REALLY WHITE like it would ideally be! mostly because it would take a lot of time and effort to either remove the text, go and clean that up, make the box nice and perfectly white, then bring the text back onto it......or re-type/re-make the entire thing!
So..........yeah, thats general jist of my observations from just that cover and again, I really hope this does not come across as "Your covers arent very good" or "You really need to improve" as they are obviously REALLY good........but if you want to become someone who can help us out with this list, and am posting covers with the expectation that they will be uploaded to the site.......then these issues will prevent that.
Once again, many thanks for helping out with these.....you have made Banisher a very happy man already! and please do not be put off, its just that these retail covers especially have very high expectations and standards attached to them......and essentially EVERYTHING I have said to you here was said to me when I started, and I have improved so so much from that feedback, to that point that I have had 7 straight uploads of these since then.
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Thank you OhhNoYouNintenDidnt for the feedback. I mean I really want everyone effort and time to be recognized by posting to this site. So if we can clean those, then it will be very nice. Let me see can I ask few people can do it for us. Thank you OhhNoYouNintenDidnt and Josh-Photoshop.
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stuff and what have you
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Thank you. Below is a file with three raw scans:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/njtc1g4w7lx8c6r/New+folder.zip
Super Soccer Champ
World Cup USA '94
Desert Strike
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This post was just a waste of everyone's time. Sorry
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Fireball looks like it's coming along nicely, definitely some clean up still required though as far as site standards go. Just the boring, no fun shit to fix. Dust, replacing low res elements with better ones, etc. Great start though man.
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Banisher, do you have a list of SNES boxes you have already purchased? When I buy off Ebay I try to get the a good box if TCP doesn't have a raw available.
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Banisher, do you have a list of SNES boxes you have already purchased? When I buy off Ebay I try to get the a good box if TCP doesn't have a raw available.
I've bought a lot, like Casper, World Heroes, Outlander, etc...
Which one are you going to purchase?
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Your covers look Amazing!
I am looking for the following SNES Covers:
Clayfighter 1 & 2
No Escape
Outlander
Primal Rage
Ren and Stimpy Show: Time Warp
Spider-Man: The Animated Series
Spider-Man X-men: Arcade's Revenge
Spider-Man Venom: Separation Anxiety
T2: Judgment Day
T2: the Arcade Game
Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends
Tin Star
Total Carnage
World Heroes 1
Thank you in advance!
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I've been eying Inspector Gadget. Trying to keep it with in my budget but I'd rather get one with a box if no one has it.
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I've been eying Inspector Gadget. Trying to keep it with in my budget but I'd rather get one with a box if no one has it.
I do NOT have that one, so if you have purchased it, please scan it. Thanks.
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I've been eying Inspector Gadget. Trying to keep it with in my budget but I'd rather get one with a box if no one has it.
This is the best deal that I can find:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Awesome-Super-Nintendo-SNES-game-Inspector-Gadget-cartridge-original-box-tray-/311402674139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48810bb7db
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Hey OhhNoYouNintenDidnt,
Thanks for the feedback. Most of those issues were born out of, ahh, a lack of time? I'm trying to fit these in with my regular job, so I've developed a workflow that is kind of quick. it mostly works fine for me and my needs, but I'm seeing I need to pay attention to the details a little more. Obviously, as when you do work for yourself you can get away from imperfections, but as always, when it's for the larger crowd, it needs perfection.
With my short time frame to work on them, mainly I was trying to hit the biggest offenders. I do want to contribute though, because I've made great use of this resource and would like to give back.
I'm going to work on the cover that banisher supplied and see if I can't get a better impression from you guys. :p
Tell me about it man, fitting in doing these to the very high standards necessary......around the real damned world (why dont people understand it takes times and so leave you the hell alone!?!? ha ha), and you are totally right about the difference between what you can accept when youre just making them for yourself and THEN when you realise how bad they are when a get into making them for the community!........man, my early covers are EMBARRASSING!! and I am slowly going back to them to get them up to the standards that I now HAVE to make them too every time (even for myself. ;D ).
But as I said, those standards only came from people here pointing out the little details I used to either skip or miss.........in the end, of course, it takes a lot of time and effort to go for perfection (when you cant just dedicated huge blocks of time to them) but ultimately it feels great to know that you have produced something fellow community members want/need and that it is the best possible version of it available ANYWHERE!
And you have also started out doing this for the same reasons as I did, which is that feeling that you have gained/benefited so much from the guys here that you want to start giving back! 8)
I should be able to clean it up really nice, but it'll just take a little more time then I have been giving to them. I'm going to do some research to see what I can do about fixing the halftone on the images. I'm not a big fan of the blur/median/noise reduction methods in Photoshop. I really started looking closer at some of the other covers people have done. With the methods that people use, it works, but it also leaves this certain look to the image that I'm not always excited about. That's when you're viewing it up close though. Printed out, I hardly notice. - I wish I had the time to just recreate the artwork, ha, but that'd take forever and a half.
Each to their own man, so long as the issues look of them is ultimately great and the cover admins are happy to have them hosted on THEIR website (which is the ultimate reason for the high standards, as poor quality covers on this site, being the most reliable, comprehensive and well know and respected cover site in the world for games........reflects on them/the site's reputation if they are a bit ropey and not looking like people put full effort into them), then all its all good!
Here's the Faceball cover. I noticed a few things I can clean up, but I've got to work on some other things so I'll have to set it aside for now. Let me know what you think!
I developed a method for reducing the halftone pattern that seems to work well and produce smoother results.
Now I think I'm going to have to buy this game too, hehe. I did make the cover, sooo might as well put it to use. :p
Faceball cover
Looks better, and I like the new method for reducing the grainey/moire effect..........but there are still quite a few areas that need cleaning up, do you want me to be specific? (dont want to patronise you if you are aware of them but just didnt have time to address them, ha ha) so you can see PRECISELY what we are talking about here?
Let me know and I shall get really specific like how under the spine logo there is a faint red bar that obviously should not be there and between a lot of the white lettering on the back there are little flecks of "stuff" all over.........there is more, ha ha, sorry. :(
Anyway, really glad you have taken all this so well and am willing to work with us to get these up to the standards.........to be honest, and if you think about, it would be pretty crap to put all the effort and time you are doing.......only to have them not go anywhere/be hosted on the site for the whole world to easily see/access/use for the sake of a few more details being sorted out.
Many thanks man, look forward to tackling the missing covers list with you!
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I'm sorry I wasted everyone's time. Maybe someone can delete this thread and end my shame.
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FIFA International Soccer:
FRONT: http://www.mediafire.com/view/ju8cfms6rzsuljb/FIFA%20International%20Soccer%20FRONT.jpg#
BACK: http://www.mediafire.com/view/cpqkgmnb68ab0gs/FIFA%20International%20Soccer%20BACK.jpg#
Please help.
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I've been eying Inspector Gadget. Trying to keep it with in my budget but I'd rather get one with a box if no one has it.
This is the best deal that I can find:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Awesome-Super-Nintendo-SNES-game-Inspector-Gadget-cartridge-original-box-tray-/311402674139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48810bb7db
I got them down to 27 bucks, so I bought it. Ill scan it as soon as it arrives. My only concern is there was no picture of the back so hopefully it's in good condition
Also do you have bust a move? I found this http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=111146165275&alt=web the only bad spot can be repaired I think
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I've been eying Inspector Gadget. Trying to keep it with in my budget but I'd rather get one with a box if no one has it.
This is the best deal that I can find:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Awesome-Super-Nintendo-SNES-game-Inspector-Gadget-cartridge-original-box-tray-/311402674139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48810bb7db
I got them down to 27 bucks, so I bought it. Ill scan it as soon as it arrives. My only concern is there was no picture of the back so hopefully it's in good condition
Also do you have bust a move? I found this http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=111146165275&alt=web the only bad spot can be repaired I think
The condition of that Bust a Move is absolutely fine.........the creases on the front can be removed in seconds and the sticker residue does not matter at all because all that text can (and is by me and many others) completely re-typed and not taken from the scans.
So if you can get it for a price you are happy with then go for it! and we would love the scan for it. ;)
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Alright cool, I bought it so Ill get Inspector Gadget and Bust a Move scans up when they get here :)
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Cool, I'm glad I am not the only one buying boxes. I am still buying boxes and I am actively asking other members to create those cases. Thanks everyone.
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I'll buy a box we need that's under $25. I'm on a semi tight budget so I cant really see spending more than that unless it does come with a game in good condition.
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I got your point. I just receive my We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story case yesterday. I will upload it later today.
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(http://i.imgur.com/UwnHBZNl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/UwnHBZN)
This is the only good thing I did, so I'll leave this here for others.
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Thanks.
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Hi everyone, below is another raw scan that I purchased:
FRONT: http://www.mediafire.com/view/4gw3mxmblzwu7ow/We%27re%20Back!%20A%20Dinosaur%27s%20Story%20FRONT.jpg#
BACK: http://www.mediafire.com/view/wz4gxkrg18zu5v8/We%27re%20Back!%20A%20Dinosaur%27s%20Story%20BACK.jpg#
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I've been eying Inspector Gadget. Trying to keep it with in my budget but I'd rather get one with a box if no one has it.
Hey, can you get this one because I am trying to save money for Bronkie the Bronchiasaurus. Thanks
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I bought them already, got them literally 10 minutes ago ;D
Bust - A - Move
Front - https://app.box.com/s/2e4ur8yhiyhehapmike5nysff9lfqk4s
Back - https://app.box.com/s/v20ok5wxhqqoulbu3g2nln4zqht8qjsa
Inspector Gadget
Front - https://app.box.com/s/gv1c4th09xgq2yu98x3i9f3gq4i7kbxz
Back - https://app.box.com/s/wa6m23k14a1j814b8kue5ni45nohrkfr (https://app.box.com/s/wa6m23k14a1j814b8kue5ni45nohrkfr)
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I meant Best of the Best, the link below:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEST-OF-THE-BEST-CHAMPIONSHIP-KARATE-SUPER-NINTENDO-SNES-GAME-W-BOX-/271845523535?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4b41804f
Sorry.
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oh no worries, unfortunalty I'm tapped out on cash until this friday
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oh no worries, unfortunalty I'm tapped out on cash until this friday
Thanks.
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Outlander:
FRONT: http://uploads.im/AiDpN.jpg
BACK: http://uploads.im/Y7Jzf.jpg
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Anyone has Miracle Piano Box?
http://www.uncletusk.com/home/95-super-nintendo-snes-king-of-demons-box-.html
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I've just ordered 15 more raw scan, I really need someone to help me make those covers. Thanks.
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WWF RAW Scan:
FRONT: http://uploads.im/qBu12.jpg
BACK: http://uploads.im/ZjVb7.jpg
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WWF Super WrestleMania:
FRONT: http://www.mediafire.com/view/4yxu7m72ed9w0l3/Wrestlemania%20the%20Arcade%20Game%20FRONT.jpg#
BACK: http://www.mediafire.com/view/t2p3mpl52zl7zbj/Wrestlemania%20the%20Arcade%20Game%20BACK.jpg#
WWF Royal Rumble:
FRONT: http://www.mediafire.com/view/2svfgikz0ox77ch/WF%20Royal%20Rumble%20FRONT.jpg#
BACK: http://www.mediafire.com/view/7v22c75hfu9y83h/WF%20Royal%20Rumble%20BACK.jpg#
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Foreman For Real:
FRONT: http://www.mediafire.com/view/w3mmmfn9fn5fgwe/Foreman%20For%20Real%20FRONT.jpg#
BACK: http://uploads.im/eruPQ.jpg
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banisher, you still rock for the work you do, but me. I'm giving up. I'm sorry I wasted your time.
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banisher, you rock!
I've been caught up in one hell of a week, but hopefully here soon I can get some cycles to put a few other covers through.
You can just finish the covers that I sent you in my zip file last time. Thanks.
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Yeah, I'm just going to be up front at this point, because this day just tanked. I'm not going to be able to work on this anymore. I'm getting suicidal and I need to seek help. I wanted to help you guys do some cool things, but yeah. It's not in me; nothing is. I give in. I can't hold it together any longer.
Could someone be so kind as to wipe my account off the face of the internet?
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Sounds serious, what happened?
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hope you get better.
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Josh, please get help. Call this number if you need to speak to someone: (800) 273-8255
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We are all here for you.
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Wow, wasnt expecting this...........Josh, sorry to hear things have gotten unbearable for you man, there are many periods in life where it all seems too much and this obviously effects people in so many different ways, and to so many different degrees.
All I can say is that please, as the guys have said here, get some help before you do anything that you might feel is "addressing" the issue you are experiencing...........there are very few things in this world that cannot be over come with the right level of acknowledgement, understanding and just talking through with the right person.
Especially as this seems to have come about really sudden...........just do not do anything drastic.
I wish you well, I wont even dare to say I know what you are going through as I (and anyone) do not know what it is and also how you are experiencing it.........but what I can say is that I have been to place where the only option was what you are saying there, I even began walking down that path but thankfully I was steered onto another one by both my own process of dealing with things and then with the help of the right others.
If you are still checking this, then hopefully seeing the concern of people you dont even know, who have never met you or have any real place in your existence will mean something to you.........feel free to PM me if you want/need/feel you can.
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World Heroes
FRONT: http://uploads.im/wnkSl.jpg
BACK: http://uploads.im/93ePu.jpg
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World Heroes
FRONT: http://uploads.im/wnkSl.jpg
BACK: http://uploads.im/93ePu.jpg
Mate, really not the thread to be bumping with cover requests.
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World Heroes
FRONT: http://uploads.im/wnkSl.jpg
BACK: http://uploads.im/93ePu.jpg
Mate, really not the thread to be bumping with cover requests.
Sure