The Cover Project
Artist's Corner => BitBoxes => Topic started by: StoneAgeGamer on September 22, 2013, 12:46:50 PM
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I decided to make a post specifically about BitBox Game Cases. Not specifically the NES ones we have already released, but more about future cases. Although we can talk about NES ones as well here. There is already another thread (http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=12379.0) about the NES cases.
I am not trying to spam the board, but I figured if I attempted to talk about other future BitBox cases on that thread the subject would become confusing and probably once it went to the next page the conversion would be lost. I ask the mods to NOT merge these threads together, since about half of the NES thread is just speculation about the cases before release. I would suggest either locking that thread or we keep it open for discussion about the current NES cases.
ABOUT US
For those not familiar with Stone Age Gamer, we have been in business since early 2007. We mainly focus on gaming at least 2 generations behind the current generation. Our business has grown exponentially over the years. We current ship out of two smaller locations in Michigan and Ohio, however we are working on consolidating that into a single larger facility in Ohio over the next 6 months.
FUTURE CASES
Let me just state this from the beginning. If you hate thermal formed cases and will never change your mind about them then BitBox cases will not be for you. If we felt these cases were junk or were not up to our standards we would have never had them made. We do not want our name associated with poor quality products. Thermal form has advantages and disadvantages over injection molded cases. However, the biggest advantage is initial cost of investment. To give you an idea. We can get a thermal form case engineered, molds, and a few thousand cases produced for less than just the mold cost of an injection molded case.
We don’t plan on stopping at just the NES. We would eventually like all EverDrive Deluxe to have similar cases, but we aren’t just focused on EverDrive cases. Due to the relatively low upfront costs of thermal formed cases we can get cases made for all sorts of systems.
If you are unfamiliar with the EverDrive line of products they include carts for Genesis/Mega-drive, SNES/SFC, Master System, Game Gear, Nintendo 64, TurboGrafx-16/PCE, Famicom, and NES.
The next cases we would like to do are cases for the SNES/SFC and Nintendo 64. We obviously will not be producing cases specifically for obscure systems or rare/weird shaped carts. I would say that are limit is what I could consider second tier systems like TG-16, Game Gear, etc. So no cases specifically for your Odyssey 2 carts sorry. However, we would like to eventually make generic large and small case that fits maybe fits a piece pick and pluck foam for the more obscure systems.
So an idea of systems would want to do cases for (listed in order of our current priority, but open to suggestions):
1. NES (already done)
2. SNES / SFC (engineering)
3. N64 (engineering)
4. GB/GBC (engineering)
5. TG-16/PCE [I want to get away from the cases we currently have to use]
6. Atari 2600/7800
7. Game Gear
8. Genesis/MD/32X
9. Generics
10. Master System
11. Famicom
Under consideration:
1. Neo-geo AES/MVS
2. (your suggestion here?)
I may be missing some cart-based systems that I would consider tier 1 or 2 there. Some of these carts may be able to be combined in the same case. However we only want to do it if there is an elegant way of doing it. We don’t want a case like the UGC where nothing fits that well.
You guys are probably pretty familiar with which carts are similar in size or which could be combined so I would be happy to hear suggestions. Portable carts would obviously go into smaller case, probably similar to size of DS case (TG-16 as well). I would also like to hear preferred cart orientation and other features. Memory Card slot in N64 case, for example.
“RULES”
I am not a mod, so these are more suggestions. Please do not come to this thread to promote other products, especially competing products. Comparisons are fine, but if you are just here to try to promote some other similar product please refrain. If you are comparing products, I would prefer it to be to products that actually have been released. If you are here to offer a review of a BitBox product we ask that you actually have used the product. Just saying that you think they suck without ever even using the product doesn’t actually add to the discussion.
FAQS
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You can save some time when designing Genesis, Famicom, and Master System cases as they are all similarly sized. I think 32x is the same as well. Are you going to have special cases for EA carts?
A memory card slot would be pretty nice in the N64, since some games actually take up an entire card (All Star Baseball 2000 is like that), but overall, it doesn't seem necessary.
Also think that if you make TG-16, and Gameboy cases, they could be made as thin as possible, like a DVD or Blu-ray case thickness...this could be a pipe dream with vacuum formed cases, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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Right I figured Genesis, MS, Fami, and 32X could probably go into one case. My list is mainly in list of priority, but any that I can elegantly combine I will. EA carts I am unsure how that will work exactly, I am sure something can be done. Does anyone know how many EA games for Genesis were released?
DVD thickness may be possible for portables and TG16 with the thermal forming.
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I think its pretty hard to beat the old style DS cases for GBA games alone for the fact it has a cart slot, and they fit a manual fairly easy with a itty bit of modding.
I really like the looks of the NES cases you have and would like to have a few to see how well they look personally. Money has been an issue of late is why I haven't bought any yet.
But whatever plans you do have I highly suggest making it to where they can hold manuals for any system especially SNES and N64 Since current cases on the market doesn't fit them well.
I know there will be some who don't care but I do know there are many of us who like that option.
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^^^ The bit cases have a spot for manuals already, and I'm sure they plan to keep that feature on board for future cases.
I'm telling ya, save some time and money by having foam inserts made for the existing cases in order to hold SNES, Genesis, N64, etc carts. They already fit nicely, and a simple (cheap) insert would easily take care of the void left by the smaller carts. Just a thought ;)
BTW, our next batch of EB0 carts will be packaged in your cases ;D
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^^^ The bit cases have a spot for manuals already, and I'm sure they plan to keep that feature on board for future cases.
I'm telling ya, save some time and money by having foam inserts made for the existing cases in order to hold SNES, Genesis, N64, etc carts. They already fit nicely, and a simple (cheap) insert would easily take care of the void left by the smaller carts. Just a thought ;)
BTW, our next batch of EB0 carts will be packaged in your cases ;D
I was going to ask you why you were ordering those.
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(reserved for Shenske's review on the BitBox NES Cases ...?)
Would you like me to post my review on the BitBox cases in this topic or the old topic?
I have a quite a few pictures i'll be posting as well to help support what i'm talking about in my review. :)
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Might just be easier to keep everything here.
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Some of the cover art made specifically for BitBox NES case modified by shenske:
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(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1054.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1054.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1055.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1055.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1056.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1056.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1057.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1057.JPG)
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1058.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1058.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1059.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1059.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1060.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1060.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1061.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1061.JPG)
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1062.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1062.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1063.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1063.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1064.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1064.JPG)(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/sm_IMG_1065.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1065.JPG)
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Some of the cover art made specifically for BitBox NES case by shenske:
You might want to reword that, The Blaster Master cover was made by someone else, and fixed up by me. :P
Not sure about others, I know SMB3 and I think Zelda was him.
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Some of the cover art made specifically for BitBox NES case by shenske:
You might want to reword that, The Blaster Master cover was made by someone else, and fixed up by me. :P
Not sure about others, I know SMB3 and I think Zelda was him.
Well I meant modified by him for the case. I didn't mean he originally made the cover art for all of them.
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We have under 1000 cases left of first batch and we will soon be ordering second batch. We will be ordering double of our original batch. However, we have somewhat a dilemma. The current batch has a documentation/manual strap at the front. This adds quite a bit on to the cost. We can remove this strap and offer optional vinyl pouches that can be stuck on the inside front or we can keep the strap. Without the strap the cost goes down considerably, especially for the larger packs. This will give the customer the option if they do not want/need anything to hold manuals on the inside front cover. Remember the NES manuals was about as wide as NES carts are wide, so its possible for most of them to fit behind the NES cart while in the case even without anything to hold documentation.
So basically we are asking your opinion. Here is estimated pricing on next batch:
-- NO STRAP --
100-pack no strap:
$1.80/ea. ($179.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.20/ea.
50-pack no strap:
$2.00/ea. ($99.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.25/ea.
25-pack no strap:
$2.40/ea. ($59.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.30/ea.
10-pack no strap:
$2.80/ea. ($27.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.35/ea.
Single no strap:
$3.99
Optional Pouch: +$0.50
-- WITH STRAP --
100-pack w/strap:
$2.20/ea. ($219.99 total)
50-pack w/strap:
$2.46/ea. ($122.99 total)
25-pack w/strap:
$2.80/ea. ($69.99 total)
10-pack w/strap:
$3.20/ea. ($31.99 total)
Single w/strap:
$4.99
For reference here is picture with strap: http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/detailed/17/IMG_0939_sm137346459751dd6815bccef.jpg
Picture of case with optional pouch (I had to cut out strap so please ignore that part):
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/IMG_1214.JPG)
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Ditch the strap. But keep in mind, I couldn't care less about keeping manuals with these games. I find it pointless. These cases are meant to keep the usable parts of a game (I.e. the game itself) in good shape while in use, while allowing us to store the boxes and manuals elsewhere (since they're not needed to play the game and are quite fragile).
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Ditch the strap. But keep in mind, I couldn't care less about keeping manuals with these games. I find it pointless. These cases are meant to keep the usable parts of a game (I.e. the game itself) in good shape while in use, while allowing us to store the boxes and manuals elsewhere (since they're not needed to play the game and are quite fragile).
Right. I am sure there are people who do want the spot for manuals as well, but the pouches are cheaper and hold manuals better. The only downside to them is that you got to stick them on yourself. I feel without the strap is the better option too, but before I ordered more cases I wanted to get some other input. Hopefully some others will give their input on this.
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Ditch it for sure mate.
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Alright thanks for input, I think we will drop the strap. We only have a few hundred of this first batch left in stock. We will soon be ordering the second batch. Once we receive the second batch of NES cases we will then begin working on SNES/SFC and N64 cases.
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Ya, pouches vs straps sound better.
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I purchased a set of case and I think that the strap is well worth the extra money. It is wide enough to accomadate some of the game maps for instance final fantasy that will not fit well in a pouch.
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Just an update to something I posted in the original post. We have actually moved to a new location in Salem, OH. This has centralized everything now for us. One main reason we needed to get this place ASAP was for BitBox storage. I did a walk-through video a few weeks ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFiy2H7NirU
Also looks like KRIKzz is working on a GB/GBC flash cart. This makes a GB/GBC case a priority once we get the SNES/SFC and N64 cases done. Maybe even earlier.
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So many of us retro game companies in Ohio. We should all just merge into one giant retro biz :P
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We were sent some different sample sizes today for portable style cases. This one was the best fit. The sample molded for a CD, but its to get the idea. They can be made in black or white, but I assume most people may prefer black.
I took art from TCP. I had to upscale it slightly. Luckily the dimension ratios are pretty close to the art already on the site so there is not a lot of noticeable stretch or deformation in the art. The inside should fit a Game Boy manual fine. Without the pocket there is about 4.75" of space. With pocket there is about 4.65" of space. I believe Game Boy manuals are normally 4.5".
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(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1243_thumb.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1243.JPG)
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1244_thumb.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1244.JPG)
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1246_thumb.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1246.JPG)
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1247_thumb.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1247.JPG)
(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1248_thumb.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/IMG_1248.JPG)
SNES/SFC and N64 cases are still planned for very early 2014 release. However with the news that KRIKzz is making a EverDrive for the Game Boy we want a Game Boy case ASAP as well.
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Those look nice. Could you post a side-by-side picture with a DS case?
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Is it bad that I'm more interested in the 4-player Simpsons cabinet right now? ;)
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Is it bad that I'm more interested in the 4-player Simpsons cabinet right now? ;)
It's the companies fault for making you want it so bad...;)
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I would actually love to have that cabinet also!
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Might have to make a trip to Salem :P
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Everyone is making cases! ::)
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Might have to make a trip to Salem :P
I still live in Michigan. I hired someone to take over day-to-day in Salem. My Simpsons is at my house right now. Although when we open the store front I will probably move it and my 4-slot MVS down there.
Here are some before and after pictures of it: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.233019153381166.77183.136116593071423&type=3
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Might have to make a trip to Salem :P
I still live in Michigan. I hired someone to take over day-to-day in Salem. My Simpsons is at my house right now. Although when we open the store front I will probably move it and my 4-slot MVS down there.
Here are some before and after pictures of it: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.233019153381166.77183.136116593071423&type=3
Michigan is just a hop, skip, & jump away ;)
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You are right, I am technically competition when it comes to these particular cases....but I don't mean to be!!! These guys were like 4-6 items down on your list and I didn't think you'd get to em so fast! Therefore I didn't feel the need to mention them. And yeah, I guess I could have done it in a PM but I wanted it public to make sure everything is in the open. I just don't want to see you lose any money/time on something that hopefully is already nailed down. ;) I know you have tons of other case types on your list to do and we all need/ want those cases as well.
At the very least, once my cases come out and if they don't meet the expectations, then please, by all means, make better cases! We are not here to make a living off these, we are here to case our collections in good products.
I have gone back and deleted my previous comments in good faith.
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I'm pretty sure SAG is trying to make a living with their products. Why on Earth would you spend the time and money to develop something like this if not to make money? ???
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Just thought I'd drop in and say I recently ordered the bitbox nes cases and they are amazing I love them to death and I can't wait for the new ones to come for the other systems I will be ordering those when they are available good job to everyone at stoneagegamer for making those.
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Just thought I'd drop in and say I recently ordered the bitbox nes cases and they are amazing I love them to death and I can't wait for the new ones to come for the other systems I will be ordering those when they are available good job to everyone at stoneagegamer for making those.
Thanks for kind words.
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I think that you've brought plenty of attention to your potential competition on your own. Throwing a fit anytime somebody posts about a product that isn't yours rather than ignoring it only serves to make it more public.
While I'm glad that you take it on yourself to make items that help collectors, many of us are also working with a limited amount of disposable income. Anytime somebody can make a competing product for less I'm all ears. Besides, it's not like the guy couldn't just make his own thread that would probably garner a lot more attention then posting in your thread.
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Might have to make a trip to Salem :P
I still live in Michigan. I hired someone to take over day-to-day in Salem. My Simpsons is at my house right now. Although when we open the store front I will probably move it and my 4-slot MVS down there.
Here are some before and after pictures of it: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.233019153381166.77183.136116593071423&type=3
Michigan is just a hop, skip, & jump away ;)
You close to border? I would invite you over for tea and crumpets, but almost all my retro gaming stuff is gone except for my arcade cabinets.
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I think that you've brought plenty of attention to your potential competition on your own. Throwing a fit anytime somebody posts about a product that isn't yours rather than ignoring it only serves to make it more public.
While I'm glad that you take it on yourself to make items that help collectors, many of us are also working with a limited amount of disposable income. Anytime somebody can make a competing product for less I'm all ears. Besides, it's not like the guy couldn't just make his own thread that would probably garner a lot more attention then posting in your thread.
You are probably right. I probably should have taken my own advice and PMed him. I think it is somewhat rude to piggy back off my thread, but I don't think there was any intended malice on ShadowFox's part. If I did the same thing on Seymour's thread I am sure Seymour and other's would have not been happy about it. He even agreed that he should have PMed me. You are right he can create his own thread and probably should. I have taken down all my posts related to the subject. No hard feelings towards Shadowfox.
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Anywho, back on topic.
GB and GBC are the same dimensions. GBA has same main width, but with added the 2 pegs at each side. Are there any crazy style GB, GBC, or GBA carts out there?
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Anywho, back on topic.
GB and GBC are the same dimensions. GBA has same main width, but with added the 2 pegs at each side. Are there any crazy style GB, GBC, or GBA carts out there?
Pokemon Pinball
Warioware Twisted
Robopon
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Anywho, back on topic.
GB and GBC are the same dimensions. GBA has same main width, but with added the 2 pegs at each side. Are there any crazy style GB, GBC, or GBA carts out there?
Pokemon Pinball
Warioware Twisted
Also Perfect Dark and Top Gear.
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Anywho, back on topic.
GB and GBC are the same dimensions. GBA has same main width, but with added the 2 pegs at each side. Are there any crazy style GB, GBC, or GBA carts out there?
Pokemon Pinball
Warioware Twisted
Robopon
Excellent. Thank you.
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Alright ordered all 5 of those. If anyone things of any other ones let me know.
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Yoshi Topsy Turvy does not bulge out like Pokemon Pinball but it is a little different shape.
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Just a reminder/FYI Virtual Boy boxes are the same size as Game Boy boxes and their manuals are also the same as the original Game Boy. Not the most popular system albeit. Carts are about a mm or so thinner than the GB but larger obviously.
(when talking about VB text must be red)
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Its a shame the the black sleeves don't fit. What if I did a little cutting? How hard would it be to mod them to fit the sleeve?
I have over 160 Nes games so if i start caseing them, I am going to need a lot more shelf space.
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Cutting vac-formed cases like these would seriously hurt the structural rigidity :(
Though I think these cases seriously negate any need for a dust sleeve. These suckers hold NES carts super tight and there is virtually zero way for dust to reach the contacts.
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Its a shame the the black sleeves don't fit. What if I did a little cutting? How hard would it be to mod them to fit the sleeve?
I have over 160 Nes games so if i start caseing them, I am going to need a lot more shelf space.
You can not mod these types of cases.
We figured most people would not want to sleeves on while in the case. Like I said in the other thread, it is kind of redundant. If we allowed the sleeves then it may have made the cart fit loose. If you looks at the images of the case with a cart into them you can see why the sleeves will not fit.
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My main goal is not for dust protecting. I just want somthing that looks good on the shelf and keeps the game complete with manual + maps , sleeve, and game cart.
I would like to see one of these in person and attempt to make the mod.
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My main goal is not for dust protecting. I just want somthing that looks good on the shelf and keeps the game complete with manual + maps , sleeve, and game cart.
I would like to see one of these in person and attempt to make the mod.
Trust me you will not want to mod these. I am not saying that because I care if you mod them personally, it just won't work well with this type of case. It would look terrible and like wiggy said would pretty much destroy the rigidity of the case.
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These kind of cases won't suport any mod, won't work what you are trying to do, after the mod maybe it wont close or maybe it would open easily, but if you want to try it is up to you ;)
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Anywho, back on topic.
GB and GBC are the same dimensions. GBA has same main width, but with added the 2 pegs at each side. Are there any crazy style GB, GBC, or GBA carts out there?
Other than those already mentioned...
Kirby's Tilt'n'Tumble's cart is slightly different from standard GBC carts. It's dimensions are mostly the same but it's slightly thicker at the top.
Drill Dozer is another GBA game with a unique cart shape. Its dimensions are similar to Yoshi Topsy Turvy, but not exactly the same.
Pokemon-clone "RoboPon" had a weird tall cartridge with an IR port built in. (http://www.gameboycarts.com/2010/08/robopon-a-cartridge-with-infrared-sensors-by-atlus/)
Gameboy Camera, obviously :P
And various models of Gameshark/Action Replay/etc.
That's all I can think of.
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If it was me I would just sell the black sleeves on ebay or trade them for games etc the bitbox cases are really awesome they trump sleeves anyday.
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Anywho, back on topic.
GB and GBC are the same dimensions. GBA has same main width, but with added the 2 pegs at each side. Are there any crazy style GB, GBC, or GBA carts out there?
I think there is a list on here that is the definitive list of "weirdly-shaped Game Boy cartridges". After searching and not finding anything definitive, I may be mistaken.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=11525.0
Try Nintendo Age forums if you want a definitive collector's answer.
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Can't recall the titles, but there are those games that have a light sensor in them as well. They're uniquely shaped.
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Can't recall the titles, but there are those games that have a light sensor in them as well. They're uniquely shaped.
The "Boktai" series on GBA fits that description.
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I love the idea of these bitboxes but being from the uk its very impractical to order any due to shipping costs.
It would be great if you could look at getting a UK or european distributer. I know UGC are sold by gameseek so maybe they'd be interested in your product.
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I love the idea of these bitboxes but being from the uk its very impractical to order any due to shipping costs.
It would be great if you could look at getting a UK or european distributer. I know UGC are sold by gameseek so maybe they'd be interested in your product.
We have had some international buyers, but yeah shipping is a problem. These are twice the weight of UGC. Finding some international distributors is something we eventually want to do.
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Just an announcement, we are completely out of NES game cases. We currently have another batch being manufactured. We hope to have them back in stock by mid-December. They will be back at a new lower price.
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What was the new pricing and did you mention that you are having Snes & N64 ones made as well? I really hate bending my manuals for SNES and N64, In the UGCs.
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especially since some manuals are worth more than the game carts.
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What was the new pricing and did you mention that you are having Snes & N64 ones made as well? I really hate bending my manuals for SNES and N64, In the UGCs.
100-pack:
$1.80/ea. ($179.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.20/ea.
50-pack:
$2.00/ea. ($99.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.25/ea.
25-pack:
$2.40/ea. ($59.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.30/ea.
10-pac:
$2.80/ea. ($27.99 total)
Optional Pouch: +$0.35/ea.
Single:
$3.99
Optional Pouch: +$0.50
Yes SNES/SFC and N64 cases should be out early 2014.
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We received next shipment of BitBox for NES in yesterday. We are waiting on documentation pouches. They should be back up on the site by the end of the year.
We also will soon begin working on SNES/SFC and N64 cases. These should be available for sale in first quarter of 2014.
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Say I bought 100 cases, do I have to have 100 pouches? Also, I have all my manuals inside of these http://www.retroprotection.com/product.sc?productId=40&categoryId=23 would they fit inside your pouches?
... not often I have to ask another man if something will fit inside his pouch...
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Say I bought 100 cases, do I have to have 100 pouches? Also, I have all my manuals inside of these http://www.retroprotection.com/product.sc?productId=40&categoryId=23 would they fit inside your pouches?
... not often I have to ask another man if something will fit inside his pouch...
You can select them with or without pouches.
I don't know if those will fit int he pouches or not, they are pretty close to the size of the manual. I may actually look into getting some custom pouches made that are a little wider and maybe slightly shorter.
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Just an FYI we do have our new shipment of NES cases in. They are currently listed on the site. We have not taken new pictures yet, so the strap versions are still showing, but everything else about them is the same. Our holiday sale ends tomorrow, so if you want to save 10% you don't have much time. We have already sold almost 10% of this batch.
We have also send off SNES, SFC, and N64 carts to begin the engineering process for the next case designs. I will obviously post pictures for feed back when I get images of the computer models. We hope to have these done and ready early 2014.
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I have taken some new pictures of the new NES cases with the strap now gone. Nothing else has changed except that.
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Just some updates:
- We now have added 300 covers to our database that keep the original art aspect ratios. These cover art were designed specifically for BitBox NES cases. We are working on more.
- We have are sending [SNES, SFC], [N64], [GB, GBC, and GBA] carts off to get cases engineered for them. Once we have some design images we will post them. Expect to see cases for sale in a few months.
- We worked with a plastics company to develop a better sized documentation pouch. These new pouches are slightly wider and shorter. They should fit larger manuals and maps better. We should be receiving these new pouches in a few weeks.
- We are hoping to be at the Midwest Gaming Classic this year with all our BitBox products (plus a ton of other stuff). So if you live in the Milwaukee area and are interested in checking them out stop by our booth.
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A while back i was looking at those NES cases, but the shipping to The Netherlands is sky high ... i really love the look of the cases, and UGC's are really annoying to trim down for NES games and don't really look that nice. It's also pretty tedious to do ... considering i''ve got around (i lost count) 85 NES games.
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A while back i was looking at those NES cases, but the shipping to The Netherlands is sky high ... i really love the look of the cases, and UGC's are really annoying to trim down for NES games and don't really look that nice. It's also pretty tedious to do ... considering i''ve got around (i lost count) 85 NES games.
We are actually looking into cheaper shipping options. Just to clarify we do not mark up shipping, that's just how expensive it is through USPS. We have had a lot of interest from Europe, especially from the Scandinavian countries. There is a shipper called Jet Carrier that ships from the U.S. to there. We are looking into that option to see if it will be a good option that will save out customers money. If we do find a cheaper shipping provider we will post here.
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I'll second that. USPS int'l rates double and tripled in some instances over the last year or so. Fucking morons operated in the red for so long that they couldn't afford to incrementally increase prices over a longer period of time, so they just jacked them way up to try and get back in the black. Ugh.
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right I do a lot of ebay S%H and even then I get jacked up on price since I do a lot of free shipping on my items
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I'll second that. USPS int'l rates double and tripled in some instances over the last year or so. Fucking morons operated in the red for so long that they couldn't afford to incrementally increase prices over a longer period of time, so they just jacked them way up to try and get back in the black. Ugh.
A pack of 5 games i had ready to send to sheep changed price from last week to this week. The envelope option was removed and i was forced to use the "use your own box" for 15.08 instead of 9$ the envelope was
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Just a quick heads up, we are actually giving away a 10-pack of NES cases on our FaceBook right now (only lasts until 5PM EST): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=802344343115308
There is also a 15% off BtibBoxes coupon code in the description of the give-a-way that only lasts until midnight.
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I was all for it with the 15% off code. Then the shipping cost more then buying a 10 pack...stupid UPS and Canada. Next time I guess.
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As stated in a earlier post we will be sending carts out for engineering our next 3 cases which will include a SNES/SFC case, N64 case, and a GB/GBC/GBA case. For those wondering how manuals will fit in the GB/GBC/GBA case here are some examples:
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With no pocket:
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With pocket on bottom:
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With pocket on side:
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That case is just a sample case that the company sent us. Our would be black. Its not a prototype. Once we have drawings we will show what case will look like and once we receive prototypes we will post those as well.
The pockets used in these photos are not the actual pockets that will be available, these were cut down pockets that we originally used with the NES cases. However as you can see all typical GB manuals should fit in perfectly. No pressure points that could cause creasing.
We expect price for the SNES/SFC and N64 to be similar to the NES cases, but we are waiting on rough quote on GB cases. Due to size difference we are hoping the cost is quite a bit lower. Once we have rough idea we will post here.
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This looks very interesting. Excited to see more info on them ;D
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Just doing some pre-engineering before I send off carts. Took their sample CD case and using my cutting machine cut out 8 layers of styrene to make GBX cart holder. This obviously will not accommodate weird sized GB carts. Some of those are too thick to even fit in the case, the others are much taller than normal gb carts. We will have to offer solutions for those carts in our Generic cases when those come out. I also forgot finger pry areas.
Obviously this is in so way representative of what the final product will look like. :)
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I have a ton of NES cover art that was made specifically for the BitBox NES games cases that I would like to upload, but I don't see anywhere to select Case Type when I upload.
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I have a ton of NES cover art that was made specifically for the BitBox NES games cases that I would like to upload, but I don't see anywhere to select Case Type when I upload.
Snowcone has talked about re-tooling the site. That would be a feature the site could use; case type. There's isn't an option for case type at the moment. I would open a thread specifically for your Bit Box covers. At least they'll be out there for now. Maybe Arseen could recommend an area for BitBox covers.
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I have a ton of NES cover art that was made specifically for the BitBox NES games cases that I would like to upload, but I don't see anywhere to select Case Type when I upload.
Snowcone has talked about re-tooling the site. That would be a feature the site could use. At the moment, there's isn't an option. I would open a thread specifically for your BitBox covers.
Thanks for info.
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I think the mod chooses it.
I'm sure the mods would recognize the case type by the cover size.
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Maybe Arseen could recommend an area for BitBox covers.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/ go here and see is there any new suitable area. ;)
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I think the mod chooses it.
I'm sure the mods would recognize the case type by the cover size.
Yes it is regognised by size, but I think snowcovne still has to add the description top the database, like Genesis has both the UGC and clamshell.
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Maybe Arseen could recommend an area for BitBox covers.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/ go here and see is there any new suitable area. ;)
Thanks Arseen. 8)
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Maybe Arseen could recommend an area for BitBox covers.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/ go here and see is there any new suitable area. ;)
Thanks Arseen. 8)
No problem
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Im kinda interested in the nes ones, because UGC's are a pain to mode with what tools I have available to me, but these Bit boxes are so Expensive in comparison!
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Im kinda interested in the nes ones, because UGC's are a pain to mode with what tools I have available to me, but these Bit boxes are so Expensive in comparison!
Actually if you have an oscillating tool, it takes less than 20 seconds to modify one and you can get one for pretty cheap on eBay or Amazon. I would love to start using these BitBox cases but my god are they expensive. I don't doubt their quality and I am certain they are far superior that UGC, its just that they are way out of my budget. Plus I have already cases 100+ NES games using UGC and they do the job for me
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Just doing some pre-engineering before I send off carts. Took their sample CD case and using my cutting machine cut out 8 layers of styrene to make GBX cart holder. This obviously will not accommodate weird sized GB carts. Some of those are too thick to even fit in the case, the others are much taller than normal gb carts. We will have to offer solutions for those carts in our Generic cases when those come out. I also forgot finger pry areas.
Obviously this is in so way representative of what the final product will look like. :)
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(http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/gb/thumb_IMG_1351.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/gb/IMG_1351.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/gb/thumb_IMG_1352.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/gb/IMG_1352.JPG) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/gb/thumb_IMG_1353.jpg) (http://www.stoneagegamer.com/images/bitbox/gb/IMG_1353.JPG)
I would recommend making those cases fit Gameboy Advance games with a piece of break-away plastic to extend the case for regular Gameboy games.
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Im kinda interested in the nes ones, because UGC's are a pain to mode with what tools I have available to me, but these Bit boxes are so Expensive in comparison!
Actually if you have an oscillating tool, it takes less than 20 seconds to modify one and you can get one for pretty cheap on eBay or Amazon. I would love to start using these BitBox cases but my god are they expensive. I don't doubt their quality and I am certain they are far superior that UGC, its just that they are way out of my budget. Plus I have already cases 100+ NES games using UGC and they do the job for me
Like I said with what tools I have available to me. an oscillating tool is not some thing I have! They are also way out of my budget.
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I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the NES BitBox cases can SAFELY hold the larger manuals such as Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior without bending them when closing the case? This is a problem I've ran into with the UGCs and is a make or break point for me...
Thanks
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I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the NES BitBox cases can SAFELY hold the larger manuals such as Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior without bending them when closing the case? This is a problem I've ran into with the UGCs and is a make or break point for me...
Thanks
I am not sure.
Can you give me measurements of these manuals?
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I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the NES BitBox cases can SAFELY hold the larger manuals such as Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior without bending them when closing the case? This is a problem I've ran into with the UGCs and is a make or break point for me...
Thanks
I am not sure.
Can you give me measurements of these manuals?
Same as SNES and N64.
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I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the NES BitBox cases can SAFELY hold the larger manuals such as Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior without bending them when closing the case? This is a problem I've ran into with the UGCs and is a make or break point for me...
Thanks
I am not sure.
Can you give me measurements of these manuals?
It appears those manuals do not fit correctly in current case. They just barely don't fit and go over the inner lip, which would cause it ti be pinched when closed and not allow the case to close completely. Honestly I guess I did not even realize how big these manuals were. BitBoxes are pretty large cases, so I guess it never crossed my mind that these manuals would't fit.
The good news is that we already talked to factory about this and sent them some manuals and they are going to see if they can modify the mold for these larger manuals for future runs. If we do end up correcting this issue we will obviously post about it here.
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I was wondering if anyone knows whether or not the NES BitBox cases can SAFELY hold the larger manuals such as Final Fantasy or Dragon Warrior without bending them when closing the case? This is a problem I've ran into with the UGCs and is a make or break point for me...
Thanks
I am not sure.
Can you give me measurements of these manuals?
It appears those manuals do not fit correctly in current case. They just barely don't fit and go over the inner lip, which would cause it ti be pinched when closed and not allow the case to close completely. Honestly I guess I did not even realize how big these manuals were. BitBoxes are pretty large cases, so I guess it never crossed my mind that these manuals would't fit.
The good news is that we already talked to factory about this and sent them some manuals and they are going to see if they can modify the mold for these larger manuals for future runs. If we do end up correcting this issue we will obviously post about it here.
Thanks for the update man! I will be waiting anxiously...
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For the new GB/GBC/GBA cases, is there any chance of the GB/GBC games being able to fit either with or without the clear plastic clamshell cases? Or are they being designed without the clamshell in mind?
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For the new GB/GBC/GBA cases, is there any chance of the GB/GBC games being able to fit either with or without the clear plastic clamshell cases? Or are they being designed without the clamshell in mind?
Clamshell is not taken into mind. Same reason we didn't take cart sleeves into mind with the NES. We want the carts to fit snugly in the cases.
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Right I figured Genesis, MS, Fami, and 32X could probably go into one case. My list is mainly in list of priority, but any that I can elegantly combine I will. EA carts I am unsure how that will work exactly, I am sure something can be done. Does anyone know how many EA games for Genesis were released?
DVD thickness may be possible for portables and TG16 with the thermal forming.
I just checked, and N64 cartridges are also very close to Gen/32x in size. The N64 cartridge is curved at the top, but the height and width is still nearly the same.
The EA carts for the Genesis are a different story. These are both noticeably thinner and taller than normal Genesis carts. I am not sure you will be able to put these in the same case as normal Genesis games. The number of EA games on the Genesis is not insignificant. A quick look at Wikipedia says they published about a hundred games on the Genesis, but I am not sure if all of those use their special carts.
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Sorry guys I have been busy moving the rest of SAG down to our Ohio facility the last few weeks. Just got back home last Friday. I did another walk-through of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJtc5DmtRjk
I should soon have new information about these new cases. The manuals for the SNES and N64 have kind of thrown an onion in the ointment because they are so large. So we are working with the engineers to figure out the best solution to this.
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Have you ever thought of doing a case for Saturn/Sega CD? The original cases are fragile and DVD covers don't have enough height for the manuals. :(
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Have you ever thought of doing a case for Saturn/Sega CD? The original cases are fragile and DVD covers don't have enough height for the manuals. :(
Second this
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This is something we could possibly do, I will look into it.
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This is something we could possibly do, I will look into it.
Tall DVD case thank you.
Maybe one in Saturn height and another Sega CD height.
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Nothing like exploding Sega Saturn cases due to age. I love keeping original cases, but I had to move mine to slimlines cause I just didn't have very many good cases left.
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TBH I don't think there would be much demand for special Sega CD or Saturn cases. The market is much smaller and you could always cannibalize a sports game if you needed to.
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TBH I don't think there would be much demand for special Sega CD or Saturn cases. The market is much smaller and you could always cannibalize a sports game if you needed to.
Yes, not tops on your priority list of course.
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I really wish someone would design case that can hold a game with its protective plastic case/sleeve on.
Is it so odd to think people would want to keep everything that came with the game in one place? What am I supposed to do with the giant pile of NES dust sleeves, SNES dust covers and GB cases that came with these? Put them in a separate box so they can take up even more space? Some of don't have every original cardboard box from our games.
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I agree with that. Let's have cases that hold the NES, SNES and GB offical sleeves/covers/cases.