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Title: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on October 22, 2012, 02:31:38 AM
Hello. I am in need of vertical retail SNES covers of two game covers I need to fill my collection.

Musya: The Classic Japanese Tale of Horror

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition


If anyone could make those for me I'd really appreciate it.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on October 22, 2012, 03:22:14 AM
Will add to do list these 2 too.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on October 22, 2012, 03:47:42 AM
Oh wait, I just remembered one more!

Pilot Wings for the SNES. Retail vertical verison
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on October 22, 2012, 04:29:13 AM
All known US Verticals here:
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=10382.0

Including retail US Vertical Pilotwings:
http://www.mediafire.com/?v02r9s6h979c6c5
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Zalovar on October 22, 2012, 06:15:55 AM
Cool, thanks for the post Arseen, I just realized the list you linked has some covers I needed not found in the main download section.  I don't suppose Lemmings is on your list?  Seems to be the only one I'm missing. 

Regardless, thank you very much for your great work!
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on October 22, 2012, 08:50:30 AM
Cool, thanks for the post Arseen, I just realized the list you linked has some covers I needed not found in the main download section.  I don't suppose Lemmings is on your list?  Seems to be the only one I'm missing. 

Regardless, thank you very much for your great work!

Yep the list contains covers that will not make to the main site unless some polisies are changed (like covers for repro games and mix region covers like US cover for Winter Gold which is PAL only game).

And nearly none of the covers are made by me, I only compile the list.

And our site has Horizontal Lemmings so sure I can do Vertical, not today but soonish.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Zalovar on October 22, 2012, 11:50:40 AM
Awesome, thanks!  I've started fiddling around with working on covers myself but I've got a long way to go to make something passable.  I'm very appreciative of all the hard work people have put in, I love the way my games look on the shelf with all the sweet covers.

Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on October 22, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Cool. Hope to see these completed soon.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on October 25, 2012, 05:42:46 PM
Can I request Earthbound for the NES
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on October 25, 2012, 05:58:45 PM
Can I request Earthbound for the NES

Done by shenske.
Click images to download

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/0da9bd9cd50dfe0bc1abc7c0f5e13155eec4106fa0e524ec4c44c55f299626dd6g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?gd4u1493efp9ff5)

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/5b9720707de019005ae2603ade66e59b70538f34c185087e3659c9a5ba4ef86e6g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3t2hg0e94ijiybs)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Zeanhaven on October 25, 2012, 09:34:19 PM
Hello. I am in need of vertical retail SNES covers of two game covers I need to fill my collection.

Musya: The Classic Japanese Tale of Horror

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition


If anyone could make those for me I'd really appreciate it.

here for musya
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/m9lt4r9t69xewhe/musya%20snes.jpg
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on October 25, 2012, 10:02:06 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 05, 2012, 06:19:48 AM
bumping
Still waiting for Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 05, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
Find me a high resolution scan of the SNES version of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition and I'll make you the cover.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 06, 2012, 04:54:22 PM
Find me a high resolution scan of the SNES version of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Fighting Edition and I'll make you the cover.

Just ordered the game, will scan when arrives.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 07, 2012, 01:19:31 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 07, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
Another member used this image for a custom Genesis version of Power Rangers The Fighting Edition. So I took the image and made you an SNES cover. The image wasn't as high rez as I'd like but it looks good enough.
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/63e0dd33da44ee0520a55b97e717a859c3f9228d4d3bf3e11149f956b62d12804g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?lobv07c938h92o7)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?lobv07c938h92o7#

I picked it up from the following thread; to give the member credit his name is djshok:
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=4312.msg90994;topicseen#new
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 07, 2012, 05:50:32 PM
Thanks, that art looks really nice. I actually did look all over for any high res images I could find of the SNES box art but came up with very little.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 07, 2012, 11:41:18 PM
Another member used this image for a custom Genesis version of Power Rangers The Fighting Edition. So I took the image and made you an SNES cover. The image wasn't as high rez as I'd like but it looks good enough.
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/63e0dd33da44ee0520a55b97e717a859c3f9228d4d3bf3e11149f956b62d12804g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?lobv07c938h92o7)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?lobv07c938h92o7#

I picked it up from the following thread; to give the member credit his name is djshok:
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=4312.msg90994;topicseen#new

EEeeekkk! Why the gigantic bandai logo on the spine and back?  The other few hundred Vertical SNES just have the spine log int he same place.  Also, why the need for the big megazord covering the top right corner? Could we scale/tone it down a bit to fit better in the area provided?

Besides that, not too bad on the cover  :)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 07, 2012, 11:45:26 PM
The original box was for the Genesis (See the link to the thread provided), there isn't a way to crop the image and properly fit it on the box without skewing the picture. It's positioning is also due to the area where the Power Rangers LOGO appears. It's a flattened image, so I can't shift that around. The reasoning behind the ban dai logo is because it's square. In order to get it to fit in the same place as all the other logo, you have to make it tiny, tiny. However, I can shrinking the ban dai logo is easy. I'll do that tomorrow if it's an issue for you.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 08, 2012, 12:18:08 AM
The original box was for the Genesis (See the link to the thread provided), there isn't a way to crop the image and properly fit it on the box without skewing the picture. It's positioning is also due to the area where the Power Rangers LOGO appears. It's a flattened image, so I can't shift that around. The reasoning behind the ban dai logo is because it's square. In order to get it to fit in the same place as all the other logo, you have to make it tiny, tiny. However, I can shrinking the ban dai logo is easy. I'll do that tomorrow if it's an issue for you.

You could just shift the art you used down further. The front logo wouldn't block anything since it would just be closer to the zord's chest.  If you are having trouble understanding what i mean then you could send me the PSD and i could show you.

As far as the bandai logo goes you could do it like this cover.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?cover_id=11112
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 08, 2012, 12:25:58 AM
The original box was for the Genesis (See the link to the thread provided), there isn't a way to crop the image and properly fit it on the box without skewing the picture. It's positioning is also due to the area where the Power Rangers LOGO appears. It's a flattened image, so I can't shift that around. The reasoning behind the ban dai logo is because it's square. In order to get it to fit in the same place as all the other logo, you have to make it tiny, tiny. However, I can shrinking the ban dai logo is easy. I'll do that tomorrow if it's an issue for you.

You could just shift the art you used down further. The front logo wouldn't block anything since it would just be closer to the zord's chest.  If you are having trouble understanding what i mean then you could send me the PSD and i could show you.

As far as the bandai logo goes you could do it like this cover.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?cover_id=11112

The problem is the wing at the upper portion of his head is cropped in the original picture. So it has to line up with the top of the cover. Thanks for pointing out that logo, I'll replace it. However, anyone is welcome to try and recraft the cover. I can provide you with my unflattened photoshop work. I was doing it as an act of charity.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 08, 2012, 04:09:19 AM
Well, I think it looks good :o
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 08, 2012, 04:34:45 AM
Well, I think it looks good :o

Yes it does, but it's just too different...
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 08, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
I will say this... Someone created custom work for the bootleg Genesis version of this game (for them-self). They were kind enough to share their work.  I know nothing about Power Rangers. This request has been here more than a week. I saw an opportunity to make a quick SNES version (from the creativity of someone else) for this individual request. I agree the logo looked odd. That's what I found while doing a google search. I fixed it.

I'm not sure that anyone has the right to complain. You don't have to use this cover. You also have the option to make your own cover. This work was an act of kindness for a fellow gamer. Sometimes appreciation would be nice.

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/6d5aa5eeeb94825ac05c857ad460ad553acc8f6ec6fb0d660b11cf84598f62b84g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?4so2aeirq6ey0ra)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?myfiles#4so2aeirq6ey0ra
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 08, 2012, 12:53:15 PM
Oh I'm not complaining.
Deeply sorry if I offended you. ;)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 08, 2012, 01:42:17 PM
I'm not sure that anyone has the right to complain. You don't have to use this cover. You also have the option to make your own cover. This work was an act of kindness for a fellow gamer. Sometimes appreciation would be nice.

I already said 'not too bad on the cover.'  I simply offered you suggestions to improve the cover and make it more consistent with the other Vertical SNES covers.  No ill will intended
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 08, 2012, 03:43:06 PM
Well I appreciate it ;D
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 08, 2012, 04:44:15 PM
Because you're appreciative, I give you this... BOOM!!!:
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/92f2f470c866fa1bf8678a8a0fa92d866d37dc05b0b36fde34043afa06a8d06d4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?83cfwamcamh9z95)
Musya: http://www.mediafire.com/view/?myfiles#83cfwamcamh9z95
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 08, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Awesome! I hope these all get added to the main site
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 08, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
Hopefully this Musya cover is better than that low resolution cover you were referred too. You've gotten all your requested covers, right?
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: genocyber on November 09, 2012, 08:33:55 AM
Indeed. Thanks for helping me.
I'm sure I'll be in need of something else eventually. But for now I'm good.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 09, 2012, 10:58:58 AM
Awesome! I hope these all get added to the main site

I don't decide but I can still tell no:
- Wrong SNS code
- Wrong BAR code? (didn't check so not sure)

Fix those and there is slight chance.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 09, 2012, 12:23:18 PM
Awesome! I hope these all get added to the main site

I don't decide but I can still tell no:
- Wrong SNS code
- Wrong BAR code? (didn't check so not sure)

Fix those and there is slight chance.

Even if those were fixed they unfortunately would not make the site. The front artwork used in both are sub 300dpi images stretched to fit.  :'(
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 09, 2012, 12:49:36 PM
Awesome! I hope these all get added to the main site

I don't decide but I can still tell no:
- Wrong SNS code
- Wrong BAR code? (didn't check so not sure)

Fix those and there is slight chance.

The policies of the site are somewhat unusual in that the main data base is riddled with work like this:
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/b7f2d564eb545171fa0c9b9c55686e7458e6593f66b48f5641fed6dd7842ae3c4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?909g3ypc3t3b20b)
http://www.thecoverproject.net/view.php?game_id=1906
where the bar code has a zonesega water mark and artwork resolution is low, low, low...
As opposed to using this artwork because they find some fault with it..
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/1270d2bcd7ddcf1c013cdbe602db74892c8adad71b7677bd75e52a5e524f35b74g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?vcui2dqdcm2po7x)
(Look, his finger is blurry where you fixed it. Sorry, we can't use it!)

The site is missing hundreds upon hundred of covers but they'd rather update with a few covers a month (that meet their new standard) then to use the covers from the users that keep this site alive. Arseen keeps track of all these rejected covers in a forum post. The work is beautiful but for some reason or another, the site doesn't want to use them but they are getting downloaded anyway.

What I can say is that the users of the site create beautiful work (Some users create poor cover work too). It's sad that I have to book mark forum threads in order to find and keep track of the real cover work and creativity of the site. It's a wonderful site but it lacks the true up keep and logic that it needs. I visit the site on a regular basis (I joined in August). It's become apparent to me that snowcone doesn't have time for the site, nor does he really care. Arseen seems to be the only person that does care (as I see him helping those visiting and other members on a daily basis). It's my opinion that snowcone should just give the site to Arseen.

I do try to keep my opinions to myself. The first time I questioned the state of the site, I was attacked at every end (some of the wonderful comments included that i was an idiot troll and my work sucked). Knowing that I, myself, have downloaded hundreds of cover I do my best to give back to the community.

Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 09, 2012, 12:54:48 PM
Awesome! I hope these all get added to the main site

I don't decide but I can still tell no:
- Wrong SNS code
- Wrong BAR code? (didn't check so not sure)

Fix those and there is slight chance.

Even if those were fixed they unfortunately would not make the site. The front artwork used in both are sub 300dpi images stretched to fit.  :'(

Not true. I don't stretch my images. None of my images are skewed as i take pride in my work. The Musya logo and background were drawn from the ground up. I have a pains taking process of upscaling, my images (as high resolution scans aren't available)... much of it has been re-drawn (at 300 dpi). There's no reason to believe any of my artwork is stretched to fit (you must be blind). That's actually offensive. The earlier comments about the Power Rangers cover stemmed from my refusal to stretch time image to make it fit in a smaller, compressed area. However, these are usually the type of excuses I hear.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 09, 2012, 02:05:47 PM
Not true. I don't stretch my images. None of my images are skewed as i take pride in my work. The Musya logo and background were drawn from the ground up. I have a pains taking process of upscaling, my images (as high resolution scans aren't available)... much of it has been re-drawn (at 300 dpi).

 ::)  The image that djshock originally used for his Power Ranger Fighting edition (same one you used) has been stretched and is not suitable for the site.  He even linked the original image and its way too small.
Your logo and background on the Musya cover are just fine ... the character on the front looks pretty muddy. Where did you get the images of the guy on the front? Perhaps it was already scaled before you put in your cover?


There's no reason to believe any of my artwork is stretched to fit (you must be blind). That's actually offensive. The earlier comments about the Power Rangers cover stemmed from my refusal to stretch time image to make it fit in a smaller, compressed area. However, these are usually the type of excuses I hear.

Uhh .... what the hell are you talking about? I NEVER told you to stretch the front image on the PR cover ... i told you to shift it (as in move it down further).

I'm just trying to help, take that as you want.   :)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 09, 2012, 03:02:35 PM
I think the djshock Power Rangers image was 200 dpi. I upscaled it to 600 dpi, added some filters and then brought it back down to 300 dpi. It should be printable with no noticeable change to the resolution. I've only posted it a day ago and it's already been downloaded close to a hundred times. Most of my work (and the work of others on this site) are getting downloaded regardless of the site politics or standards.

If I were trying to make a point, it's that people, like this new user, want this work regardless of the site standards. That ugly Fatal Fury cover for Genesis was downloaded 600 times. Obviously not everyone shares the same standards. If the site is willing to keep this art work up, why is it unwilling to use some of the work generated by the users of this site.

I don't mind a cover critique if it's for a reason. However, my reaction is due to the fact that my work isn't going to be used by the site anyway. Stretched may have been the wrong word to use.  Typically, a stretch is when you use a free transform in photoshop without upscaling the image causing a pixeled image. What i do is upscale but I fix the results. I'm not just taking low resolution images and using them. I'm actually doing something to improve them. It's not perfect. So, please understand that for someone like myself to spend hours fixing the resolution of an image, it is offensive for someone like yourself to say, " we won't use your cover because you stretched the images."  It's a friken lot of work sometimes. Often, I have to use 3 filters plus a layer mask and lots touch ups. You should be able to zoom and zoom and zoom on that power rangers cover without seeing pixels.

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/358385674deb14a5531359649d4964c7a5c75efcd3119327ce883994005d0d484g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?dot69ok7sa29jo9)

I used this image:
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/ff27e6d0a2aba77c60ecd67f53273e0e97d268ee9c9f1ccae2db69246b691dfb4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?4c92tn969qbnzoo)
To create this cover:
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/9c37dd4321d8cde38cc63ff0ecf0e74c91fbe9f362f7758f484201fec14dbff94g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?lkiwkrz99gnga5z)

You'd probably be pretty hard pressed to figure out that i had upscaled the image if I hadn't told you.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 11, 2012, 09:12:31 PM
I think the djshock Power Rangers image was 200 dpi. I upscaled it to 600 dpi, added some filters and then brought it back down to 300 dpi. It should be printable with no noticeable change to the resolution. I've only posted it a day ago and it's already been downloaded close to a hundred times. Most of my work (and the work of others on this site) are getting downloaded regardless of the site politics or standards.

If I were trying to make a point, it's that people, like this new user, want this work regardless of the site standards. That ugly Fatal Fury cover for Genesis was downloaded 600 times. Obviously not everyone shares the same standards. If the site is willing to keep this art work up, why is it unwilling to use some of the work generated by the users of this site.
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Thats great, i'm glad your covers are getting attention and are being used.  Many covers that are below our standards still look ok when printed out.  We have our high standards for a reason. We want the highest quality and most consistent covers on the net, not the most covers on the net.  That title belongs to vgboxart. We prefer that quality over quantity approach.

We actually don't have the ability to remove covers from the database. Only replace them. when we get a cover that meets our standards we will replace that cover.  Our standards years ago were not as strict as they are now. Some of the older covers do not meet our current standards and we will be glad to replace them when a suitable replacement comes along.




I don't mind a cover critique if it's for a reason. However, my reaction is due to the fact that my work isn't going to be used by the site anyway. Stretched may have been the wrong word to use.  Typically, a stretch is when you use a free transform in photoshop without upscaling the image causing a pixeled image. What i do is upscale but I fix the results. I'm not just taking low resolution images and using them. I'm actually doing something to improve them. It's not perfect. So, please understand that for someone like myself to spend hours fixing the resolution of an image, it is offensive for someone like yourself to say, " we won't use your cover because you stretched the images."  It's a friken lot of work sometimes. Often, I have to use 3 filters plus a layer mask and lots touch ups. You should be able to zoom and zoom and zoom on that power rangers cover without seeing pixels.

I honestly meant no offense.  I made that vertical SNES template and i included a readme file w/ the template for a reason.  I have a specific set of rules for using the template so all of the covers are consistent across the board.  

I understand your process takes  along time and the finished product may look far better than what you started off with but if the finished product doesn't meet our standards we have to decline it regardless of the amount of work that went into it. Upscaling works great on monochromatic logos but doesn't always doesn't always work that well on images.



You'd probably be pretty hard pressed to figure out that i had upscaled the image if I hadn't told you.

I downloaded you cover and found this the moment i zoomed in.  See the little stray pixels. Even when you apply some filter a few of these little guys will pop up.  They are artifacts from a low quality image.  Not only the pixels but do you see how all the fur isn't distinctively separated. The original image when blown up wouldn't have looked so muddy and have been a little smoother.
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9025/89037205.jpg)

It may seem nitpicky but its what it is  :-\


EDIT:  To be honest, i'm far too busy to be arguing about this. Best of luck with your covers. I won't be talking any more about this topic.  :)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 12, 2012, 02:13:07 PM
Your standards are beyond reality and it's odd that these standards only apply to others as your own covers are imperfect. The truth is, original Genesis, NES, SNES and other weren't printed at 300 dpi back in the 80's and 90's. That's why when you scan an old box at 300dpi, you can see the color cells. When you print some of these substandard covers, you can't see these flaws unless you put them under a microscope. Aside from the fact that thousands of covers that are made available on this site don't meet your own standard, I can show you plenty of flaws with the newer covers that have been posted based on how nitpicky you. Should I do so?

Go and print one of the Wolfchild boxes and try to find these same pixels you're complaining about. The sites own templetes suffer from the same complains you've made over my cover work. Look at the resolution and color discrepancies. I don't think anyone cares that about these imperfections. However, you seem so concerned over imperfections under a microscope... I'm surprised you aren't complaining about the sites templates. Should I show you more imperfections? There's plenty.

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/a147f6198d188319612c802c97536ae8de559418b2b4cc2cbec9cca85447e4334g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?u9185dd6n55c57b)
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/a8057dd2abb6a4c06f3c57a116c93c83c6c5559ead11f24d51082da3161b3c854g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?19b42267imanx6v)
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/c7b9ce5d9f1c5176fc5fd09170ac88e492c0351510f919535f8cb8cae34f75704g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?l6nnap5g4ipt8ck)
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/605fa61e2d801fc64b61751768b2a075820fe5338482b16d20ee01a90151ac8a4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?oa06cj44b02l550)

Forgotten Worlds Scan at 300 dpi
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/f5442d99ca4bb23b9155e2e5289a73f1187878622c718b41a9dd6526f07764874g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?dpewk5qn8p3vk5f)

text scan zoom
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/de0b40a042df5cff480c7893658a5d5bcae4bb638999a48e33634fc7961dd7074g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3xs56lpatfu3sy7)
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/97abf1433c08196dc69de194ddb03fc3162a6d708d533478b574f2edccc798b84g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?pj8pd8mlncxw5ux)

Close up on characters face
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/4add604502ebbf4ae6f5a8649536a0ff34c4a41a3d1c032a163d69423671f8284g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1bdn06cil194af0)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 12, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
Actually I have been nagging about the SNES template once in a while.

And I'm using updated template that has some bits better, see: Super Tetris 3:

Super Tetris 3

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/68d407f49af476bed2d3e871b57074f86529275acb27a4d99dc1dfa11e10e00a6g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?dyiwbx47n7vbvp1)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 12, 2012, 03:26:34 PM
I'm sorry you have an outdated version of the template. Try redownloading from our templates page  :)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 12, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
I just joined a two months ago. I've only downloaded the template recently. I would imaging most of the work posted on this site is with the outdated template.  Why aren't you complaining? If the tetris 3 templete is the newer template. The imperfections I just pointed out are still there, with the exception of the seal of quality. The entire back is... um.... stretched and low rez. Below your standard.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 12, 2012, 03:43:21 PM
The NES Section Z cover that was posted on October 29th, 2012

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/62cb6d947a14e794f37f5ead998ad1187e52f7d5230aab4efaf4b43ee8fd63924g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?lhl1o0aeuipg7d2)

OMG, the resolution is lower than the Wolfchild cover I posted but for some reason it's acceptable. Can someone say hypocrisy! The thing that is shocking is I didn't zoom in that much. The zoom you did on Wolfchild is far greater.

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/b488d9084138f5ab06bed7c5c2b534061c611d837ab77f1f18da4b20945e9e944g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?6c4poadam78dric)

How embarrassing. Judging... Complaining about others work... ...for not meeting an imaginary standard.

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/bee4ff84a6f1a49da52b0c9cfe02210ce22f16dac5068ecf18de735d1ed66e984g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?vetb305mqq4ab1v)
OMG, such a substandard resolution. It's so much lower than the covers I just posted.
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/b1e06b5026df503cdbffdc3e780ceb4b87ec2b7f2da0bc2000a28605d043f4c14g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?fy2tv91k08vqenk)
Pride comes before a fall...
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/641ad77b627f234a646eb8b1d5c88f426da102d2b1a9f58050a4220146af8e094g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?7n4ubidmf9jfk7c)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: BadChad on November 12, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Im going to have to disagree with you on the NES cover, and agree with what shenske pointed out about your Wolfchild cover. He knows what hes talking about. I was actually the one who approved that Section Z cover and theres nothing wrong with its quality. Sure any cover will look pixelated if you zoom in enough but I dont think thats the point. Moire effect cant usually be completely repaired without washing out the details of the artwork or bringing down the overall sharpness and quality. Like shenske pointed out, theres no detail left in the fur of the wolf because its been washed out which was probably because the original art source wasnt the greatest to begin with. BTW, mobygames is NEVER a suitable site for artwork worthy of our standards...

Just comparing your wolfchild cover to our SNES wolfchild cover can show the difference, and to be honest even our SNES cover could use a few minor tweaks which would improve the overall quality.

GEN/SNES:
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/BaddyChaddy/wolfchild2.jpg)(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/BaddyChaddy/wolfchild1.jpg)

Looking at the two makes it clear to see the difference in detail and personally, the one on the right looks better to me.

Sure it can be upsetting when your cover gets turned down, but your cover was turned down for quality reasons and its not like thats something we just do around here for fun. We want covers that meet our standards so there will be no need to update them in the future. Sure we have plenty of old covers that could use updating and it seems like everybody who gets offended by our standards, runs straight for that boat (I did once when I was new around here). Things have changed over the years and quality standards have improved and theres nothing wrong with that. And personally, Im happy for that because it pushed me to make better quality work and now Im a cover admin whos made plenty of high quality covers for everyone to enjoy. If your cover doesnt meet our standards but is still useful to others, theres nothing stopping them from enjoying it from the link you posted.

Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 12, 2012, 05:17:42 PM
Im going to have to disagree with you on the NES cover, and agree with what shenske pointed out about your Wolfchild cover. He knows what hes talking about. I was actually the one who approved that Section Z cover and theres nothing wrong with its quality. Sure any cover will look pixelated if you zoom in enough but I dont think thats the point. Moire effect cant usually be completely repaired without washing out the details of the artwork or bringing down the overall sharpness and quality. Like shenske pointed out, theres no detail left in the fur of the wolf because its been washed out which was probably because the original art source wasnt the greatest to begin with. BTW, mobygames is NEVER a suitable site for artwork worthy of our standards...

Just comparing your wolfchild cover to our SNES wolfchild cover can show the difference, and to be honest even our SNES cover could use a few minor tweaks which would improve the overall quality.

GEN/SNES:
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/BaddyChaddy/wolfchild2.jpg)(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/BaddyChaddy/wolfchild1.jpg)

Looking at the two makes it clear to see the difference in detail and personally, the one on the right looks better to me.

Sure it can be upsetting when your cover gets turned down, but your cover was turned down for quality reasons and its not like thats something we just do around here for fun. We want covers that meet our standards so there will be no need to update them in the future. Sure we have plenty of old covers that could use updating and it seems like everybody who gets offended by our standards, runs straight for that boat (I did once when I was new around here). Things have changed over the years and quality standards have improved and theres nothing wrong with that. And personally, Im happy for that because it pushed me to make better quality work and now Im a cover admin whos made plenty of high quality covers for everyone to enjoy. If your cover doesnt meet our standards but is still useful to others, theres nothing stopping them from enjoying it from the link you posted.



Actually, I don't care if my work is used. The individual that made this post requested his desire to see my work used. I was just poking holes in shenske arguments as to why my work wasn't up to site standards. After all, this type of work is my profession. I've been doing it for 12 years. I'm beyond this. I spit out these covers on my lunch break. So, I'm just having fun with this post. Most of the retorts crack me up. None the less, I don't lose in this scenario. This site should be so lucky that I even offered to do this type of work for free because we charge butt loads for this type of work. If the site wasn't run by a bunch of -------, you would probably have a lot more free work. Your comparison is a testament to how bad ass I am as I took a low res picture and bumped it up in quality.
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/cf44c6d8f6d47860935940385b9abce838bd7d7d7cb5c708ef5135b29699462b4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?5p7iqryrqqvyoes)

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/69b2c2b826cabcf47bb93cf3d0c17316674ccdd65451779e553ad336d47f91324g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?w005ap4a0ovi7ay)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: BadChad on November 12, 2012, 07:49:03 PM
If the site wasn't run by a bunch of -------, you would probably have a lot more free work. Your comparison is a testament to how bad ass I am as I took a low res picture and bumped it up in quality.

Your really loving that edit button!

Well I guess that would makes a few of us some pretty badass -------'s because Im pretty sure most of our regular artists could clean that up the same. Why would we be so lucky? Filters can work wonders. And Im not trying to be an ass here either. I dont think anyone here is trying to question your skill as to whether or not your capable of making covers of our quality. If you have 12 years experience, great for you. Why not try using the art from our SNES cover?

And sure were not getting paid for the time we put into making these covers. But that has nothing to do with why we make these covers anyway.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 12, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
Edit button. I will sometimes add to my topic instead of doing a new reply. However, frequently, I will get... "Waiting for Cover Project" or "Server is busy" so, I keep hitting the submit button. I'm not sure why you care so much.

And yes, if you'd had spent the time read this thread, you'd see that I've heavily complemented the cover artists of this site. I've been advocating that the site uses the artwork available on the forum because it sucks to have to bookmark forum threads to find covers. As it is, the site is missing hundreds and hundreds of covers and yet, they can be found on the fourms. The site is nitpicky. It has tones of sub-quality covers like Ultimate Mortal Kombat for Genesis or Super Mario All-Starts for SNES in it's main data base for download but It won't use hundreds of available because they have small imperfections that take two minutes to fix.

And no, I'm not just adding a simple filter. I have a process of upscaling low resolution work (Which I've already explained).

The site is wonderful. But get your act together. If the site has a standard take down all the work that doesn't meet your standard. Otherwise, make work by Wiggy, Arseen and many other available. Just put a note like wikipedia stating that the box is flawed, needs improving or something.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: BadChad on November 12, 2012, 10:51:38 PM
The site is wonderful. But get your act together. If the site has a standard take down all the work that doesn't meet your standard. Otherwise, make work by Wiggy, Arseen and many other available.

I dont understand why you continue to attack the fact that we still have low quality covers on our site when its been said that we dont actually have the ability to remove old covers from the site. We can only replace them, which is something some of us have been slowly working on lately Isnt that getting our act together? Theres not even a whole lot of us that contribute high quality work on a regular basis to begin with, and those of us that do use our own free time when we have it. If we want a certain ammount of quality in our future uploads, why does that have to be such a problem?

Just cause someone critiqued your work (or w/e els happend) and you got offended doesnt make the rest of us a whatever you think we are. We must have something together to have made it this far...
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 12, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
I will fix your covers. Give me a list. Tell me what you want changed and I'll do it on my break. There's a list of SNES Games on the forum for which there are downloads available. Most of the covers are usable but have slight imperfections. For example, the Wild Guns cover is nice but it's based on the European box which has a Titan logo on it. It's a 3 second fix. What else needs to be done to it?

This is where I post a lot of my work. Start Replacing. Most boxes should meet expectations and are better then the ones available. Others don't meet standards as I put them together quickly for fellow members.

http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=11578.0
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: shenske on November 16, 2012, 01:16:45 AM
I'm really doing my best to stay out of this one ....

I just joined a two months ago. I've only downloaded the template recently. I would imaging most of the work posted on this site is with the outdated template.  Why aren't you complaining? If the tetris 3 templete is the newer template. The imperfections I just pointed out are still there, with the exception of the seal of quality. The entire back is... um.... stretched and low rez. Below your standard.

I updated the template earlier this year and i forgot to replace the one on the site.  I'm human, thanks for reminding me that we have an outdated template in the database.  I do not know if the template Tetris uses is the one I updated.  The ESRB text will stay as is, without retyping text can often look blurry when you zoom in.  Still easily legible fine print text does not fall below standard.


Actually, I don't care if my work is used. The individual that made this post requested his desire to see my work used. I was just poking holes in shenske arguments as to why my work wasn't up to site standards. After all, this type of work is my profession. I've been doing it for 12 years. I'm beyond this. I spit out these covers on my lunch break. So, I'm just having fun with this post. Most of the retorts crack me up. None the less, I don't lose in this scenario. This site should be so lucky that I even offered to do this type of work for free because we charge butt loads for this type of work. If the site wasn't run by a bunch of -------, you would probably have a lot more free work. Your comparison is a testament to how bad ass I am as I took a low res picture and bumped it up in quality.

I think your ego may be blinding you a bit. Not all of your work is below site standard. After looking through your scans there are definitely some that will make it through.  I'm not going to bow down and "feel lucky" that you decided to grace us with your Photoshop skills.  You did a fine job working on that wolfchild cover but you have to agree that side by side you can see some of the clarity loss from using a lower rez picture as your base.  I'm not denying that upconverting is possible I'm just telling you in this case its not going to make our cut.

Please don't compare your covers to some of the OLD covers we have on our database. I have already stated that our standards were not as strict years ago as they are now and they need replacing. I've also already stated we can't remove covers only replace them.  I'm glad you are willing to help us in replacing them  :)

I can tell that the criticism of your work has struck a nerve and i apologize for that.  I will not apologize for our strict standards. Its how we set ourselves apart from the other cover sites.


This is where I post a lot of my work. Start Replacing. Most boxes should meet expectations and are better then the ones available. Others don't meet standards as I put them together quickly for fellow members.
http://www.thecoverproject.net/forums/index.php?topic=11578.0

I'll look through them as see which ones we can up to the site for you  :)
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 18, 2012, 05:11:14 PM
Mighty Morphing Power Rangers Fighting Edition raws:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1r5a57xnbbutx
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 19, 2012, 03:38:34 PM
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/d9430bc1eecdf8788e8ea27c53d937bed25544ffd75b73037ab3fcee8f635dbc4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?5cuaap24upcdab3)
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?5cuaap24upcdab3
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 19, 2012, 04:50:18 PM
Me likey this veery much, thank you.

I'll alter it just a bit before adding it to The Shadow Project (aka my Verticakl US cover tracking topic).

At least I'll make the back text White and bit bigger, and maybe make the title logos match (maybe not).
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 19, 2012, 05:11:45 PM
Me likey this veery much, thank you.

I'll alter it just a bit before adding it to The Shadow Project (aka my Verticakl US cover tracking topic).

At least I'll make the back text White and bit bigger, and maybe make the title logos match (maybe not).
Do whatever you wish to it. More often then not, when I download covers, I make alterations myself.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: Arseen on November 19, 2012, 05:16:57 PM
I forgot to say that you did excelent cleaning on the front.
You softened it just right amount.
Title: Re: REQUEST- two retail SNES covers
Post by: segamer on November 19, 2012, 05:19:17 PM
I forgot to say that you did excelent cleaning on the front.
You softened it just right amount.

Thank you! I appreciate the complement.